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  "Hope for what we do not see" - Review

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  2. beliefs

  i give it 3 thumbs down.. the video starts with an ambulance in peru.

  the ambulance people look at an id and a no blood card in spanish.. quick flash away to now and a happy family of a couple with 2 young boys.

  all good kids it collages their everyday life, all centered around theocratic activities.

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  And they lived happily ever after. The end.

  No wonder all the still ins are depressed.
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  How was your wedding?

  by BeautifulMind in

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  2. friends

  how was your wedding?

  did you have a jw wedding or something different?

  my wedding was not what either of us wanted at first, but it turned out very lovely.

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  We had a full on JW wedding. 300+ in attendance. Had fun. It was in the 80's when JW's seemed more caring and supportive. No judgement on your spirituality (the JW tasks you perform). Life seemed simpler and more like a family. Sad how things have changed. The organization has created little monsters.

  The status we had before we left (losers) would have never been accepted in this day and age.

  What a sad thing to have to write!
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  RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

  now, on with the leaks & releases!

  first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

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  WiFi - Thank you for the releases.

  It is interesting only video's for releases this year? No books or printed materials? Wow! This is a first!
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  JWs in denial, so sad

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a couple of jw sisters call at my door today.. they started with the bizarre "can we read you a scripture" and read about "death being no more" and asked what i thought of that.. i said it sounded like a mix of disney and dumb.. they then launched into how god was going to put an end to death and wasn't that wonderful?.

  i said it would have been more wonderful if he'd not created death in the first place.. they thought man created death by disobeying so i questioned why god couldn't have just forgiven them.

  apparently "because he loves us" is supposed to be a satisfactory answer to why he kills us.. i asked how loving it was to kill hundreds of thousands of children in tsunami's, disease and so on.. at this point, they gave up on the 'god is love' and switched to the bible being true no matter what because it was an old book and moses had written the first chapter (says the book).. when i suggested it really wasn't that old and that most of the bible myths were copies of older stories from before it was written they questioned if i studied the bible and theology.. then i told them i was brought up as a jw so knew it was all crap.. now it was game on, they immediately switched to play defence questioning why i'd left (and i think they'd already taken a step back away from "the evil" obviously emanating from me).. not much time to say much before they cut and run so i told them i'd left because i found out it was all based on lies and that the watchtower was corrupt and covered up things like child abuse.. oh no, you're thinking of the catholics one of them said (some disdain in how she said "catholics" as though "we're so much better than them").. "well, i challenge you to do a search for the australian royal commission and you'll see the testimony the watchtower leaders gave and the damning evidence that they covered up abuse and reported none of it to the police.".

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  Great job.

  It's amazing how many of the uber dubs know nothing about what goes on in their own religion. Some that do know, just stick their heads in the sand. I believe those ones who know only stay in for the family and friends. Like they all say..."where else would we go?" Crazy!
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  What were you never going to do in "This system" But did it?

  by karter in

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  2. friends

  finish school.. finish my apprenticeship (why are you doing that brother karter you will never finish it in this system).. buy a house.. pay the house off.. karter..

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  We always remained realistic.

  Graduated high school.

  Got married.

  Bought 2 homes

  2 great kids

  Love to spend time enjoying nature

  Now we are preparing our 2 children to survive on their own and make a life for them and any future offspring.

  The only thing we did not do was go to college. We have been very fortunate to always have good employment and always try and keep our medical benefits. We have kept our expenses down, just in case we one day loose employment.
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  The smug arrogance of "having the truth".

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.

  perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.

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  All you have to do is listen to Anthony Morris. You talk about smug and arrogant! Not a humble bone in his body. The zone meeting a year and a half ago really put the nail in the coffin for us. The part about 23 year old men who are not MS's. He stated that these men are not good marriage material. Why would anyone stick around where they are not wanted. That is just one of the many things that prompted our fade.

  One thing that we have noticed with some JW's. They do think that they are better than the average "worldly" person BUT if some find out they have money or something that will benefit THEM, then they will make some concessions. So many "gypsies" in the cult. These ones are looking for the next person who can put money in their pocket, provide housing or a job. These "gypsies" are typically need greaters, pioneers or Bethelites.
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  Could they make not donating a disfellowshipping offence?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm wondering at how far the borg could go in begging for money?

  their halls are already resembling the"money changers in the temple".

  as they get sued more and more due to their pedophilic paradise their coffers will be ever more drained.

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  The organization works best using peer pressure. I believe they will use the multilevel contribution award system. Provide lapel pin's,special Bibles,invitation to special events, lunch with the GB, a night in a lakeside suite at Warwick.

  To the most loyal and giving members. then brother "loyal" can wear his gold JW.org lapel pin to the kingdom hall and to the assemblies to show everybody his loyalty by his special gift to the watchtower. I believe something like this would work best for this organization.

  Here is a sample of giving levels

  
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  Today's Text - Brainwash Your Children!

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the increasing number of young ones leaving "the truth", it is critical to brainwash them regularly from young!.

  monday, may 16. the one who has dealings with the stupid will fare badly.—prov.

  13:20.. a child could drift away gradually on a spiritually dangerous path, being tempted by harmful association or degrading entertainment.

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  I guess the scripture could be the interpretation of the reader. WT is, in my interpretation, the stupid one, so I quit having dealings with them. Guess it could go both ways.
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  Medal of Valor given by Obama to JW Grandmother - Check her Lapel Pin

  by Da.Furious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this grandmother found the best way to advertise jw.org by wearing a huge lapel pin.. .

  some of the comments are really interesting.. link to article:.

  http://www.phillyvoice.com/obama-award-medal-valor-family-slain-philadelphia-police-officer-robert-wilson-iii-monday/.

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  HYPOCRITES!
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  May 15, 2016 Re: Answers to 10 Questions Young People Ask

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  may 15, 2016 to all congregations re: answers to 10 questions young people ask.

  publication in question: answers to 10 questions young people ask ypq-e.

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  "Shouldn't there be a new question? 'Young People Ask- Can I dress and act like Prince and remain in good standing?"

  Answer: Why yes! You can remain in good standing if you are worth $300 million bucks!