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  Deleted Elders?

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i knew about elders being "deleted" and have commented what a strange and pejorative term that is, but it wasn't until "wtwizard" and "designs" commented on another thread about it that it actually hit home for me.. one cannot step down as an elder with any dignity!

  elder's can't quit, with the word "quit" being as in "he quit his job.

  " elder's can't resign as in "he resigned as chairman of the board for xyz corp.".

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  JW's really thrive on public shame don't they?

  SICK CULT!
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  Letter To My Mother

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  seeing as im being shunned by my family and friends.

  i've decided to turn the tables and shun them back - but using the same methodology and reasoning they use on me.

  i've written the following letter:.

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  Great job PE. Well written. You are correct, it isn't very pleasant when the shoe is on the other foot. It's sad how WT has broken up so many families and continues doing so. As painful as that letter must have been for you to write, it had to be done.
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  Single Sisters Over A Certain Age Group Getting A Bad Rap

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm new here; one of my relatives was a member on this forum a few years ago and told me about it.

  anyways, as a sister who has been in the org since childhood and now in her late 40's (plus as a woman of color), i have noticed that a number of brothers have an ageist attitude.

  they are very accepting of young women under 26 and rejecting women over that age, particularly those in their 30's and over.. is this an unspoken mindset from wthq (specifically from bethel), or is it that quite a number of males (sorry, i'm not sexist here) have this type of mentality?

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  In the world (since we are evil "worldly people now), we are noticing people seem to be waiting to get married. The younger ones seem to want to get educated, travel and generally enjoy their lives before, if ever, they get married.

  You mentioned that the JW men seem to want the pretty faces and thin waists. This will not get the typical man very far. We all get older and as Bette Davis said, "getting old is not for sissies." Our faces and waists do not typically stay the same as when we were 18. The JW's are all about appearances. The men want the Elder title and the typical Elders wife (not all) likes the title just as much (if not more) than the Elder. Yes, they love the thin pretty wife but if that is all their is to the marriage....good luck to them both. There are a lot of good men out there and they are not all JW's. I have met some of the kindest, nicest men in the world. You just may have to kiss a lot of frogs to find your prince.

  This cult is male driven (I am a female). No where else in my life was I EVER treated as an "inferior." I was told when I was still active that I was not submissive to my husband. What they didn't know is that my husband does not lord it over me. He listens to me and respects my opinion. Just as I listen to him and respect his opinion. That's a no no in JW land.

  You mentioned you were making decisions about your "spirituality." My suggestion is .....RUN LIKE HELL!
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  Mark Sanderson wears an Apple Watch at regional convention

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.

  his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.

  one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).

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  I think the point everyone is trying to get across is. It is ridiculous to tell your children not to smoke cigarettes, while you smoke a pack or two a day (in front of your kids). Not only do your children not take you seriously but they have lost respect for you as well. The GB are loosing the respect of the rank and file. Like the saying goes, "do as I say not as I do." HYPOCRITES!
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  Mark Sanderson wears an Apple Watch at regional convention

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.

  his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.

  one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).

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  Outlaw....you always make my day with your posts. Too funny!
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  Mark Sanderson wears an Apple Watch at regional convention

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.

  his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.

  one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).

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  The amusing thing about it is, WT has no shame in being labeled a HYPOCRITE. If you research narcissist(s) you will see amazing similarities. A narcissist will never look at themselves as the problem and will never apologize for anything. NEVER!
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  Don't know if I'm hearing things.

  by Bigdummy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to the hall with my wife on sunday.

  i try to be there for my wife at some meetings.

  because she is still neck deep in the beliefs and she understands my fading and doesn't.

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  Bigdummy

  I am surprised he said that. Like you, we are where we are today, because of our research of this cult. Hopefully, the younger ones will do just as he said and do that research. The rest just accept if for what it is and bob their heads up in down in agreement.

  All the young ones have to do is observe the WT to see what it really consists of. HYPOCRISY! If 2 old people like my spouse and I can see it, certainly the younger generation can see it.
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  Young Girl Exposes Jehovah's Witnesses at school video goes VIRAL last 2 days 273,000 views

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original thread here.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.

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  Our teenager is a smart kid. Been showing him/her the anti education crap. He/she can't believe it! I asked a question. Where else in your life does anyone tell you that learning and more education is wrong? The answer I received was...."no where else but when we were JW's." It is just not normal to tell someone that learning and exploring and bettering yourself if wrong.

  706,523 views is incredible. Thank you Gayle for posting that. Good news!
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  Young Girl Exposes Jehovah's Witnesses at school video goes VIRAL last 2 days 273,000 views

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original thread here.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.

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  I thought I would bump this thread for any new ones who have not seen it. I showed this to my teen last week. He/she thought it was great! Her emotion was pure! She did a great job. Very brave girl.
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  Could Joel Osteen Bring the JWs Out of Their Doldrums?

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  russell had some charisma, as did the alcoholic womanizer, j.f.

  rutherford.

  n.h. knorr, not so much.

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  ToesUp

  Joel Osteen is a motivational speaker. He tells people what they want to hear. He is a wonderful speaker and knows how to work an audience. He's a charmer. This is what people want to hear. "We love everyone." I don't know the man, he could be the nicest person in the world. Religion is a business and a place to socialize. It is selling salvation and working well for Joel and his counterparts. WT does not know how to run a business like Joel, the rank and file are not being built up but torn down.

  I hate religion. I will NEVER be a part of any religion ever again. NEVER. It is a business, nothing else. I , personally choose not to participate. That's just me. Some choose to play the stock market, some don't. That's the beautiful thing about the freedom to choose.Hey...if you can run a business like that, go for it. Who says money can't buy you happiness. lol