Thank you Sour Grapes for posting that recording. We have several older siblings that also can verify that the 1975 "push" was real. We were small at the time and don't remember. This recording sickens me. I listened to the entire recording on your other post. I copied and pasted my response below.
I am so glad some of the older ones have this proof that these idiots did really make a hype of 1975 .
It goes to show how WT out right lies to its members.
Wow...great recording. Thank you. I have never heard this talk before.
Around 8 min. he speaks about Babylon the Great falling. Several churches in our area are thriving. They have massive expansions of their church. This talk was given 41 years ago.
WT has taken this talk and made new re make video(s). The Bunker video and the resurrection video. They have taken the exact same message and put it into video(s). He states, "some of us may not see it" (remake video...Kevin) Same ole, same ole...wash, rinse, repeat.
"Exert ourselves vigorously." He speaks of knocking at the door (ironic huh?) and it will not be opened to you. It seems they enjoy the fact that they can close that door on the "unrighteous." The arrogance and the self righteousness is incredible! I can't imagine having the same attitude towards family members and close friends..."oh well...you had your chance, so sorry." He even speaks of Jesus having this exact same attitude.
I'm sorry friends, I will choose to take a permanent "dirt nap" then spending eternity with these nutters. How cold and unbelievably unfeeling these people are. I am embarrassed and ashamed that my parents ever fell for this and dragged their children along with them. What were they thinking?
How could we have not seen this our whole lives?
They have "repackaged" the fear and made an entire convention geared around loyalty to Jehovah.
As the Lawyer for Candace Conti (Rick Simons) stated, "if ever there was a group the needs the sun to shine on them and their practices, it's this one (Jehovahs Witnesses)." If there is a God above, how I pray the sun will shine soon.
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by Sour Grapes ini was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
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"Stay alive until 75"
by Sour Grapes inthis video speaks volumes about watchtower failed prophecies and hyped up dead end promises.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhn6zf1hl2a.
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Wow...great recording. Thank you. I have never heard this talk before.
Around 8 min. he speaks about Babylon the Great falling. Several churches in our area are thriving. They have massive expansions of their church. This talk was given 41 years ago.
WT has taken this talk and made new re make video(s). The Bunker video and the resurrection video. They have taken the exact same message and put it into video(s). He states, "some of us may not see it" (remake video...Kevin) Same ole, same ole...wash, rinse, repeat.
"Exert ourselves vigorously." He speaks of knocking at the door (ironic huh?) and it will not be opened to you. It seems they enjoy the fact that they can close that door on the "unrighteous." The arrogance and the self righteousness is incredible! I can't imagine having the same attitude towards family members and close friends..."oh well...you had your chance, so sorry." He even speaks of Jesus having this exact same attitude.
I'm sorry friends, I will choose to take a permanent "dirt nap" then spending eternity with these nutters. How cold and unbelievably unfeeling these people are. I am embarrassed and ashamed that my parents ever fell for this and dragged their children along with them. What were they thinking?
How could we have not seen this our whole lives?
They have "repackaged" the fear and made an entire convention geared around loyalty to Jehovah.
As the Lawyer for Candace Conti (Rick Simons) stated, "if ever there was a group the needs the sun to shine on them and their practices, it's this one (Jehovahs Witnesses)." If there is a God above, how I pray the sun will shine soon.
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A sucker is born every minute
by Sour Grapes ini was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
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Thats great! Needed a good laugh today!
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A sucker is born every minute
by Sour Grapes ini was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
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"There is nothing quite like graduating from high school and going to work full time because there's no money for food or rent for your parents and two younger siblings."
That is sad. It amazes me how certain ones can not function in the world. WT and Armageddon are like an obsession.
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A sucker is born every minute
by Sour Grapes ini was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
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I agree with Wing Commander. Fred Franz was a loon. Have you ever notice WT is so enamored with sex, whether it is masturbation, adultery, fornication and beasteality . Seems to be a obsession with sex. Reminds me of the saying , "thou does protest to much."
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2016 RC & my family
by BeautifulMind ini hope you are all well.
i haven't posted in a little while.
i've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org.
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Great job! That took guts...way to go! Just wait until she realizes that she no longer gets to see her 2 grand babies. It's just incredible that they can turn their backs on their family. Hugs!
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FEMA Monies!! And JW help!!
by DwainBowman init is my understanding, that if fema is called into an event like going on in la, with the flooding and all.
fema with give up to $33,000 per family, depending on need.
and some of the monies cane be used to help them git by on, until they get set back up.
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This story doesn't surprise me. WT is all about WT and any money they can get. Follow the $ and you will find religion at the end of the rainbow. I would NEVER call WT for any assistance. The help and money only flow one way....into WT pockets.
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Has anyone been shunned by a REAL sinner?
by ToesUp injust curious..... has anyone been shunned (just decided to leave the cult)?
let me explain my situation:.
a family member seems to be shunning me.
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Thanks everyone for your feedback. I guess I have to look at it this way...it is his loss because I can be a very good friend and family member. Oh well, life goes on. Thanks again!
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Are the Elders harder on Women
by Steel ini was having a discussion with an old friend last night.
her parents are divorced and his mother never became “one of jehovah witnesses “ .
long story short she claims elders are generally hardier on women than men.
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Just my observation (as a woman).
I think the Elders (the majority) hate a woman who will take NO crap from the Brothers. They call it un-submissive. I have been called that. I told one Elder that respect is earned, not given. The Elders wife was present when I said it and she agreed. Bet she got a tongue lashing later (lol).
I think the mentality of some of the Elders when they are dealing with what they call an "un-submissive" woman is similar to a scene from the Wizard of Oz, "I will get you my pretty and your little dog too." You will have a target on your back and if they find something they can GET you on, they will. It's the only way they can shut some women up...play dirty.
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Has anyone been shunned by a REAL sinner?
by ToesUp injust curious..... has anyone been shunned (just decided to leave the cult)?
let me explain my situation:.
a family member seems to be shunning me.
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"If he is that kind of person, why would you want to be around him? I would consider it a gift that he is staying away...you can always refuse to be shunned and just greet him with a friendly greeting and a smile every time you see him."
I agree. I won't be there for him ever again. Like the song says...you find out who your friends are. Just very sad. I guess it comes with the territory huh?