This is the paragraph that really got to my husband. His reasoning..."so I can commit a sin, go to the Elders to confess my sin. I am truly repentant. The Elders decide that you don't "seem" repentant (this really happens) and they decide to DF you. NOW...an Elder commits a sin and it's ok because some time has passed. Well...the Elders little handbook says Jehovah is cool with it so let's just move along. This is bullsh*t! It's a get out of Jail card for a sinful elder. What a sick bunch of hypocrites!
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by Chook ini have done this exactly as quoted more than once.
i ask elder if it's better to hide serious sin or reveal, of course we know the answer.
then i ask them to explain elders book page 38 paragraph 19, which say it's sometimes ok for elder who has committed immorality and has kept it secret to continue serving as elder.
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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"just another nail in some publishers coffin."
The more they piss off the better!
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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"Is this the new standard? Information must appear on google to be considered accurate?"
It will all come out in due time. Like "meat in due season." lol
Sit and wait folks. Karma will kick in. I have seen it over and over in my lifetime.
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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"They are having the wool pulled over their eyes- and they don't even realize it."
I agree. Flippers post was interesting. We are looking forward to watching the upcoming shi* storm hit WT.
One thing we have noticed about most JW's (or just people in general). They don't "get it" until it has an impact on them.
We have family that lives in a small town. Going 10 miles anywhere in town in stressful for them. If they sell off their KH, they will melt. Getting them to a KH would be a miracle. Especially if THEY have to drive further.
Let's see how their faith is tested when this happens. Stay tuned!
Now that the "big boys" are tucked away snug in NY, things are starting to get interesting.
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I need more faith so I've been told
by hoser ini attended the circus assembly last weekend and i have come to the conclusion i am lacking faith.
the opening talk on the program, the very first words that came out of the speakers mouth told me so.
he said most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it.
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"He said most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it."
Side note..Most of them there are part of a cult and don't know it.
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May 22 1969 Awake!
by zeb in"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?
because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".
may 22 awake!
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POOF! Gone, WT style. This is similar to a trial. Someone, on the stand, says something that the jury hears. They strike it. The problem....the jury already heard it. BAM! The older ones remember that trash written in 1969. Trust me. We have older family members that remember that. Just like that jury, you can strike it but the damage has been done. Take a look at some of the older ones faces! They have that defeated look about them. They may never admit it, but it's there.
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London K.H.'s - Which Ones Will Be Sold Off?
by The Searcher inaccording to the org's website, various congregations will be moving in with other congregations, effective january 1st 2017.
(i've only highlighted a couple) in all probability, their own k.h.
is/has been sold.
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Great news! Each KH that is sold is an indication of where WT is right now. There is a sh*t storm coming and WT knows it. This is why they are hiding out in NY.
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Have not had a visit in over a year
by dogon ini have been out of the cult for over 20 years.
i left when the idiots changed the meaning of generation in 95 and the internet came to life giving me the links to see just what a mind numb bunch i was with.
i now live in a populated area where there is a hall about half a mile away.
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smiddy
When we first started our fade, we had a few try to contact us. Don't get me wrong. I appreciated the ones who did it. The problem that I had was, these ones who were trying to "encourage us" were not there for us when we were still in. I don't want to give too many details away but we went through a stressful financial time, due to a lay off. Not even a bit of concern from the BOE. We weren't asking from money, just a bit of true encouragement during a stressful time. I was over it and decided to leave. I wish that I could tell my whole story but I can't right now.
Don't get me wrong, I am the type of person who feels, you can't leave and want "friends" to stay away and then b*tch when they come around.
The issue that I have is, why weren't these ones around when we needed them? Imagine you have a child whom you never show any affection to, never told them you love them. One day, the child now 18 years old, has his bags packed and is moving out. I say, why are you moving out? The child replies, you have never shown me any affection or concern. All of a sudden, after 18 years, I tell my child, I love you. My question....why didn't I show love when I had the opportunity?
WT has taught me to be contradictory, I guess. They developed a brochure entitled, Come back to Jehovah and then had an entire assembly on shunning inactive ones. Which one is it? I guess my 40 something years in this religion has really scarred me. I am working on a lot of things right now.
As many on this have experienced, my story goes way back. We suffered many years with, "something is just not right here." NOW, we don't feel this way anymore. We NOW know what the "something" is...TTATT.
I hope my explanation here helps. I guess we all struggle a bit. We are moving forward and looking to the future, not living in the past. This forum helps me feel, not so all alone in my struggles.
We get one shot at a happy life. I am enjoying it....one day at a time.
Have an awesome weekend smiddy!
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Another Kingdom Hall sold
by gerry inberkeley kingdom hall in wollongong south of sydney australia has just been sold.
berkeley congregation are now sharing a neighbouring hall at dapto.. .
the reason given was the governing body has taken over all the halls and the building was in need of repair.
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Another one bites the dust. Good news!
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Have not had a visit in over a year
by dogon ini have been out of the cult for over 20 years.
i left when the idiots changed the meaning of generation in 95 and the internet came to life giving me the links to see just what a mind numb bunch i was with.
i now live in a populated area where there is a hall about half a mile away.
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Exactly DOC.
Kids are doing great but the still in family members say things like..."well, their kids may be doing well, in the world, BUT how are they doing spiritually? How is their relationship with Jehovah?" You know how it goes with JW's. They always have to out do everyone else or do you think they could be a bit jealous? Some of these ones who make comments like this are struggling financially.