Posts by ToesUp

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Millionaire JW Elder hypocrite?!

by Alostpuppydog in

so i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.

it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?

i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.

ToesUp

"In my experience much of the negative comments about those with wealth in the organisation are driven by jealousy"

I don't speak of these ones I have observed out of jealousy but out of hypocrisy. I don't know if any of you remember a few years back at an assembly there was a very strong talk given titled, keep your eye simple. This was directed to those who pursue materialism (aka the more prominent brothers). There is also talks given bashing higher education. My point is, we have been advised by others (including the wealthy) that we have a lack of faith if we decide to put our children in college YET these "more prominent brothers" are ok to not keep that "simple eye." For me it is a matter of "what's good for the goose is good for the gander." It's a matter of blatant hypocrisy rather than jealousy. Hypocrisy is one of the main reasons my entire immediate family is OUT.

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Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?

by NikL in

in the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.

as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.

does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?

ToesUp

"What about apologizing to those brothers and sisters in the 80's who were DF'd for "self deceptive" practices, namely, teaching that the FDS is ONLY the GB; a doctrine that is now "the truth."

Narcissists will NEVER apologize. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!

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Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?

by NikL in

in the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.

as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.

does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?

ToesUp

WT is really pushing things that are making people scratch their heads. They want you to blindly follow them and drink the kool aid. They want you to stay away from those who could "test your faith." Look closely, they are nervous about the number of people who are questioning, exiting and the massive amount of young ones not choosing this cult to follow. Donations are down and the future is bleak for them...follow the money!

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It's been quite a year. Finally can move forward.

by Darkknight757 in

looking back at this journey that my wife and i took this last year has been quite life changing.

who would have ever thought that two watchtower drones would experience an awakening after child loss?

we can finally move forward since coming out to our family that we will no longer be jehovah's witnesses.

ToesUp

Enjoy your freedom. Enjoy your wife. Enjoy your life. You both have been through a lot. You deserve it!

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The overlapping generation doctrine - The epitome of stupidity?

by evilApostate in

for years watchtower has taught that some of the people (anointed) who saw the events of 1914 will be alive to see the end of this system of things.

102 years later and the end is nowhere in sight; another failed prophecy.. to remedy the situation they have concocted some 'new light' in the form of the overlapping generation doctrine.

this new doctrine essentially states that the generation of 1914 consists of two groups of anointed whose lives overlap.

ToesUp

If JW's believe this crap, then there is NO reasoning with them. They have hit the bottom of the barrel, in my opinion.

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This week's bs, bible study help

by Normalfulla in

hi all , because i'm useless and can't be bothered studying, i need some rebuttals for the excuses given in this week's bs , (i love how the acronym matches its origin) my uber dub father pleaded with me to study this week's book study as it addresses my issues with them being directed by holy spirit etc and how jah reveals things progressively , problem is i know there's a great argument to put fwd with proper preparation but i'm onto my 2nd drink of the evening and can't be assed , please unload some smoking guns i can take with me tomorrow .

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chur.

ToesUp

I hate to be a debbie downer but there is NO reasoning with these people. We have tried. Unfortunately, they will label you as weak, you have no faith and label you an apostate. It is sad but true. I used to stress myself out by trying to make points with these people, to no avail. I go for a walk, enjoy a sunset or just enjoy time with my family. Much less stressful.

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Sometimes a Smile Does Wonders

by snugglebunny in

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friends

this will make you smile:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr6lr_vrseo&spfreload=10.

ToesUp

Very cute!

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Nov. Broadcast - Truth

by Listener in

for those that don't want to listen to the broadcast i've made a transcript on the section presented by losch on champions of truth.. be a champion of truth.

in today's world truth is being attacked and distorted.

we are being surrounded by a sea of lies and misrepresentations.... satan is the father of the lie but today there are children of the lie..... a lie is a false statement deliberately being presented as true.

ToesUp

Losch is the same GB member that made the statement...."I do not answer to Watchtower" and "Watchtower does not have and never had, any authority over me." The rank and files response...bob heads up and down and mindlessly follow these men.

You just can't make this sh*t up!

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JWs Excited Trump Won

by LaurenM in

i am incredibly disturbed.

many of the jws i'm still friends with on facebook are incredibly excited that trump won the american presidential race, posting, "yay!

i'm so happy!

ToesUp

JW's have been doing this since the beginning of time. They do it with every President that is elected. The JW's think that when they get a hang nail, it's the end. Like I posted on another topic. Wash, rinse, repeat. The saddest thing about JW's is that they are waiting to be happy in the new system. They don't realize that they actually can be happy now. We see this in our own families. No kids, no education, no jobs, no homes, no money. "We will be happy in the new system." Sad! Doom and gloomers.

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November JW broadcast is up, this time on not telling the truth, shunning

by bohm in

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november broadcast is up:.

https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.

we learn interesting things.

ToesUp

He says "truth is definite and Jehovah conveys the truth to his servants." Then why does it need to change if it is truth and Jehovah gives it to his servants. Makes zero sense.