Sorry for your loss. What a nice tribute you wrote about him. Friends Iike you don't typically exist much anymore. I know you will miss him.
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25My oldest friend, Quincy Roberts, Ex-JW died last night at age 66
by TerryWalstrom inthe first time i walked into a kingdom hall, i was about 15 years old.
i shook hands with a 12-year-old named quincy.
as time passed and we grew older, quincy hung out with us older j-dubs.
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"Keep in touch as a family." He said.
by Darkknight757 inwell today was the big day.
we finally let the cat out of the bag to the in-laws about watchtower.
previously there were unknown rumors being spread about me and today i found out why the wife and i are being shunned.
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It's funny how they think if you go to the memorial or assembly some magical "return to Jah" power will come over you and make you want to return. Funny!
Dubs put the cult over family. My spouse and I now realize that. As disturbing as that is....good riddance to em. Better off without them. Their lose. Sad but true.
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Hi forum
by A Believer ini proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.
i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.
i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.
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Believer....Watchtower got caught with their pants down with the generation teaching. They HAD to change it when all the ones of that generation started dying. This was a MAJOR teaching and a MAJOR change. The light getting brighter is a JW way of saying....oops we screwed up. My spouse and I were born into this religion (we are not young either). The best advice we can give you is....RUN LIKE HELL. We did and thank goodness we did. Our life should be miserable, it's not. Happier than ever. I mean it...RUN AND RUN FAST!
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1 Step Forward and 3 Steps Back: Trying to Get My Mom to See 'The Light' (Oh the Irony!)
by Sorry inrecently, my mother's been hounding me to do personal study (i think she's slowly realizing i'm becoming disillusioned with the organization and is trying to reign me back in).
i don't know what made me do this, but i decided to test the waters by challenging 'new light'.
she asked me what i learned in personal study, so i brought up organ transplants and the wt flip floppy stance on them (thanks jwfacts!).
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Your not the crazy one. Your explanation was on point. They are blinded by a cult mentality and believing big J is behind their teachings. I have a family full of loyal ones too, It is amazing to see them defend imperfect men. Then a few minutes later, gosiping about the ones in the congregation they can not stand. -
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Millionaire JW Elder hypocrite?!
by Alostpuppydog inso i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.
it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?
i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.
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The GREATEST joy and satisfaction that we have received over the past 3 years of being out of this cult is....THEY ARE NOT AND NEVER WILL RECEIVE MONEY/OR TIME FROM US AGAIN. It really is a great feeling.
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Millionaire JW Elder hypocrite?!
by Alostpuppydog inso i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.
it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?
i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.
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I don't care if someone has money...more power to them. I just don't like someone coming and telling me what is best for me and my family when they themselves may not be following things (JW rules and regulations) to a tee. I have wealthy "worldly" friends. They are kind, loving, generous and most importantly....non judgmental. They actually like us for who we are.
So... if you are educated, wealthy, run a business, live in a big house or whatever then it's all about how much you ministry you do, how your "spirituality" is perceived, what you do to be a proactive and reliable appointed man, how your wife and kids are perceived (note that perception and reality often differ), how useful you and/or business is to WTS goals, how well your face fits with the BoE, how wealthy the area and congregation you are in is and so on. The more boxes you tick the less attention is paid to your wealth."
Yes...you are correct on this one. It is all about appearances. "Spirituality" equals JW tasks. That is how you are accepted in this cult.
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Oops!! lol
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Millionaire JW Elder hypocrite?!
by Alostpuppydog inso i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.
it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?
i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.
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"In my experience much of the negative comments about those with wealth in the organisation are driven by jealousy"
I don't speak of these ones I have observed out of jealousy but out of hypocrisy. I don't know if any of you remember a few years back at an assembly there was a very strong talk given titled, keep your eye simple. This was directed to those who pursue materialism (aka the more prominent brothers). There is also talks given bashing higher education. My point is, we have been advised by others (including the wealthy) that we have a lack of faith if we decide to put our children in college YET these "more prominent brothers" are ok to not keep that "simple eye." For me it is a matter of "what's good for the goose is good for the gander." It's a matter of blatant hypocrisy rather than jealousy. Hypocrisy is one of the main reasons my entire immediate family is OUT.
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Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?
by NikL inin the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.
as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.
does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?
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"What about apologizing to those brothers and sisters in the 80's who were DF'd for "self deceptive" practices, namely, teaching that the FDS is ONLY the GB; a doctrine that is now "the truth."
Narcissists will NEVER apologize. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!
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Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?
by NikL inin the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.
as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.
does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?
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WT is really pushing things that are making people scratch their heads. They want you to blindly follow them and drink the kool aid. They want you to stay away from those who could "test your faith." Look closely, they are nervous about the number of people who are questioning, exiting and the massive amount of young ones not choosing this cult to follow. Donations are down and the future is bleak for them...follow the money!