Welcome! I loved your story. There really is no easy way to leave this cult. My spouse and I have not been to a meeting in almost 4 years. We wonder sometimes what is going on in the inside. This gives us so much hope that even the Elders see this for what it is. Thank you!
Posts by ToesUp
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65My Introduction - An ex-elder's story of waking up later in life.
by doubtfull1799 inbackground:.
my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.
i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.
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Are the J.W's reaching a "Tipping point"?
by karter ini haven't been to a meeting in 15 years but my mother and sister are hard as j.w's.
the brothers they are appointing elders are at best suspect like one guy from my old hall made elder,big time drug used before becoming a j.w his talks are all over the place and would have struggled to make m,s years ago but with at least 60 to 70 % of young ones leaving the pool to pick from is at best reduced.. 2 other recent elders both young and zero life experience both on benefits one not well at all falls asleep all the time.. the decent,kind elders mostly older and are decent people with alot of life experience are burning out fast as there are so few of them left like 3 per congro of 100 publishers.. then you have the rich elders who wouldn't ever think of inviting some poor older or mis-fit person out to the expensive placers they go to as they couldn't afford to go so they are above the r&f and the r&f get pissed off with them.
then we have the ones who have "put the kingdom 1st" who are now old worn out and barely getting by from welfare cheque to welfare cheque that are saying "the system should have been over many years ago" it's still here and they are struggling everyday.. then there are the pioneers who have a low payed reduced hour job that seem to think anyone who has anything is totally materialistic and looks down on anyone getting a new car buying a house ect.. along with the child abuse issues,the generation change,access to information the the g.b don't want anyone to know ,not to mention the issues around blood.. is there a tipping point coming????
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ToesUp
'I think you have pretty much hit the nail on the head. The good elders no longer want to be elders due to the politics of the watchtower, leaving this wide open for the many narcissistic sociopaths becoming elders.'
Glad someone bumped this thread. We have experienced the above. All that there will be left is narcissistic/sociopath Elders and they will eventually feed off of the other Elders that have the same traits. It will be interesting and entertaining to watch.
The ones we know only stay for the socialization and the admiration.
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The sly tactics the elders are using to malign my name!
by stuckinarut2 ini have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".
so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!
if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".
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ToesUp
My spouse and I believe someone is trashing our name. Does it hurt or bother us? Maybe a little. We only want those in our lives who want to be there. We are still the same, funny, good hearted and generous people BUT (big but here), we don't believe the JW religion anymore. This has caused some (most) to have no contact with us. We enjoy each others company and have a few "worldly" friends. It's ok...we'll get by and enjoy those who appreciate our company and we appreciate theirs.
Sorry Stuck. What these people do to one another is disturbing. You, or anyone else, does not deserve being treated like that.
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Another Burnt Out Elder
by Spoletta inyoung elder(mid-thirties) in my congregation stepped down last night.
nicest guy, with two lovely kids, a great supportive wife.. it got to be too much, as the other elders are practically useless, let him do all the hard work, while they did all the "important" stuff.
literally ran him ragged.. he's still in good standing, gave the final prayer.
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ToesUp
" I think only the bullies and egomaniacs in the BOE's can survive...but is this the way the flock wants to subject themselves to the loving care of the GB?"
My spouse and I have had countless discussions regarding this. If all there is left is "bullies and egomaniacs", they will eventually start feeding off of one another.
From what we are observing, instead of relying on Jehovah, JW's are relying on their Pharmacist and local liquor store.
Wifi posted a letter regarding not having enough qualified Brothers to give the Memorial talk. When has this ever been a problem? A video is now an option for the JW's most holy night.
My...how things are changing!
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BOE: Singers for recordings in German - bethel email address uncovered
by Edison Trent inlast week a new letter for the boe in germany was published online.
i want to share it with you (poor translation by google, sorry for that):.
to all service comitees of german speaking congregations.
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ToesUp
Only the exemplary should apply. The most holy of the holy. Losers can not apply. If only people could see that WT uses their members for their own benefit. We left partly because we never felt good enough. Then we learned TTATT. Only the exemplary may apply to this cult. Well...let's rephrase that. Only those who "look good" may apply. Whitewashed graves full of dead men's bones.
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Sparlock is making his rounds again
by stillin ini was at the meeting last night and the dreadful video about caleb and sparlock was forced upon the audience.
honestly, i had forgotten how bad it was.
the mother's manipulative over-reaction and caleb's acceptance that his toy was evil.
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ToesUp
"she explained to me how the toy was a promotional toy for the whole Sparlock tv series and movie that is full of wizardry and witchcraft! There is no such series or movie. I told her that I didn't think there was any such thing and she said, "
You just can't make this sh*t up! It's shocking to actually hear people say things like this. It's like they just pull it out of their a**. Delusional!
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Has anyone else seen this video on JW Broadcasting?
by NikL inso i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
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ToesUp
All is well in JW land as long as you are staying on your "tasks."
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Has anyone else seen this video on JW Broadcasting?
by NikL inso i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
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ToesUp
Oh...another point. I hope this boy becomes an MS by the time he is 23 years old. After that, he is not good marriage material (says Tony Tight pants Morris).
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Has anyone else seen this video on JW Broadcasting?
by NikL inso i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
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ToesUp
Just the title alone is disturbing, God is aware of the secrets of the heart. In other words..."you are being watched!"
The FOG Method...Fear, Obligation and guilt. And we wonder why so many JW's are on anti depressants and the Bethelites are known for the drinking issues. Watching this video just confirms that my spouse and I made the 100% right decision leaving this cult.
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My Story
by WeatherLover ini'm a 4th generation jw.
i started to realize it wasn't the truth over 2 years ago in late october/early november 2014. i don't know how exactly it happened.
i remember i had just heard about confirmation bias, and it hit me: i realized that i would be guilty of confirmation bias if i didn't look at the other side.
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ToesUp
" I am overly empathetic when it comes to not upsetting my family, I really can't stand the thought of bringing my mom to tears. "
Welcome. Your statement above shows how much you care for your family.
It's amazing how WT has the family to use as emotional blackmail. It should never happen. One should never have to make that choice. If there wasn't the shunning and DF'ing, you know there would be a mass exit.
Move slow and like Simon said..."do what is best for YOU". Unfortunately, there is no easy way to get out of this cult.