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  Observations from an Ex-Elder Part 1

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about the fog model this morning, particularly about the "obligation" part.

  my mind went back to the last elders school i went to.

  one of the parts in the section on appointments was discussing how we should not place too high a bar (human standards) for brothers to try and jump over when we are considering them for appointment as a ministerial servant.

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  " However, there was always something I had to do more of."

  And WT wonders why no men are reaching out!! Geesh!
  
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  Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

  by Deaconblues1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

  society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

  jehovah has indeed blessed us.

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  ToesUp

  "The question is,... do you want to be among the few survivors? If so folks, seek out your local congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  I so wish that I could tell you my story. The 40+ years of abuse that my family has witnessed. You know nothing of each and every person on this forum. Everyone has a story and who are you to judge who gets a free pass to the JW kingdom?Who knows, if this is even true, that you will get a free pass. You are currently on a apostate website and Jah is watching you.

  Let me tell you how sad and passionate I feel at this current moment. I would rather enjoy my life right now than spend eternity with the people I have removed from my life. The most judgmental, hypocritical and narcissistic people I have ever met in my entire life. Why are we happier since we have left? Don't ever judge someone until you have walked in their shoes and say a prayer to Jehovah for visiting a apostate website.
  
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  Observations from an Ex-Elder Part 2 - Cart Work

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  up until i left recently i was participating in the cart work.

  in the location where we used to set up near our local mall we never had one person stop and take literature or stop and chat - other than fellow brothers.

  i thought maybe it was just a bad location or something.

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  It's all about the hours. Nothing else. That is all they measure you by. So glad we are out!
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  Thorn in the Elders' Side

  by IronSharpensIron in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been out of the jw for some time.

  but i was just recalling this guy that had formerly been an elder, but had not agreed with the rest of the elders on some issues and had stepped down.

  he continued to go to the meetings, make comments at the hall and be critical of the elders.

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  For 40 years, we had a family member that was very outspoken . He died over 10 years ago but was very critical of the Elders and headquarters. I don't think his comments would be tolerated with the current leadership. I believe, he would be DF'd ASAP!
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  I Saw 2 JWs Doing Nothing With Their Cart Today

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my girlfriend and i were walking along a seaside boulevard and lo and behold!

  2 jws were standing by the pathway.

  they made eye contact and said hello.

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  We have family members who are full time pioneers. They love it because they get to do their favorite thing....SIT! If it were hard to pioneer, trust me, they would be the last people to do it.
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  No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).

  february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.

  re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.

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  It's interesting that this letter is coming out now. Don't the Elders visit these ones just prior to the Memorial? The Memorial is just a few short weeks away.
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  No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).

  february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.

  re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.

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  The natives are getting restless a little more each day. When the Elders are visiting DF'd or DA'd people, they are like blondie said, "coming over to the dark side." The Elders can not defend "the troof" anymore. Try explaining to someone the new and approved overlapping generation teaching. What a cluster. The Come Back to Jehovah brochure does not cover why most have left the cult. Elders can not comprehend that. Questions about the ARC and child abuse cases are just something WT and the Elders do not want to discuss. It is embarrassing and the light is shining brightly on WT right now. Cowards will never stick around when the light is shining on them, they scatter like cockroaches once the light comes on.
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  Sister at Kingdom Hall visibly upset "they took jehovahs name out of song"

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to meeting today and the sister in front of me was upset song 134 now song 139 no longer contains jehovahs name.

  they took it out.

  i never even noticed .

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  A lot of the older ones don't like the changes WT is making and WT could care less.
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  New Watchtower - Can You Look Beyond Outward Appearances?

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how ironic that they have asked jws to not look past - tight pants - so called "affectations" - beards - long hair - short hair - and like 1000 other meaningless and trivial things.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-june-2017/can-you-look-beyond-outward-appearances/.

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  WT will never see their own contradictions. Narcissists never do!
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  Interesting Opening statement in a public talk

  by Da.Furious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on sunday we had a talk, don't remember the title, but something about having zeal in our ministry and we are the best and have the truth stuff.

  the interesting this was the opening statement.. the speaker started: we may have seen on the tv or knew about the tv evangelizers, they have lots of energy in preaching on the tv and they ask for donations by text showing on the screen and their talk is based on asking for money.. then he moved on to talk how our organization is truly supported by god...... the thing that shocked me as related to the ignorance the speaker had.

  haven't he watched the jw.org tv channel?

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  WT will never see what they do. They blame everyone else. That is what true narcissist's do.