Posts by ToesUp

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Jehovah will clean his house first...

by tor1500 in

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with all the stuff going on in the org.

that is not being said, many of the friends say, well, jehovah will clean his house first....with all this religious hiding of child abuse...what denomination was exposed/cleaned first...although they were forced they were exposed and many still go to these places of worship.

so are the jw really god's chosen channel.

ToesUp

There is one thing I observed over the years regarding this comment. If abuse and bad things are happening to OTHERS, God will eventually take care of it. You know "wait on Jehovah." BUT (big but here)! If it happens to THEM, well that is another story.

A close friend of ours was removed as an Elder. You would have thought his entire world collapsed. OMG, the things we heard about what they did to HIM. He was eventually put back in. We got into a discussion with him about DF'ing. He shrugged it of that..."everyone that is DF'd thinks they have been wronged." Ahh...no big deal, it wasn't happening to HIM. BUT, when it was happening to him, everyone must listen to how HE was wronged! That is when these ones shrug it off as..."no big deal, let Jah take care of it." It's always interesting to see when the shoe is on the other foot, how it is not so easily shrugged off.

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Warwick Tour Brochure

by konceptual99 in

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friends

so we had this posted in the mega topic thread... wt: warwick world hq tour brochure.

the new world headquarters of jws, located at warwick, new york, will open for tours on monday, april 3, 2017.. in anticipation, a new eight-page glossy brochure about this facility has now been released:.

download pdf: https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_cmsassets/70/fo_s-whq_e.pdf.

ToesUp

Four of the 8 pages of the brochure have at least one GB members picture on it (where is the picture of Jesus?). The GB members sure are putting themselves out there like never before.

The next brochure will be telling the rank and file how they should dress when visiting. This brochure will be thicker than the one this thread is about.

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Convention program 2017 AM3

by George One Time in

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.

why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.

any ideas?.

ToesUp

"Because he's an egotistical twat?"

I agree with Sir82!

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Observations from an Ex-Elder Part 1

by doubtfull1799 in

i was thinking about the fog model this morning, particularly about the "obligation" part.

my mind went back to the last elders school i went to.

one of the parts in the section on appointments was discussing how we should not place too high a bar (human standards) for brothers to try and jump over when we are considering them for appointment as a ministerial servant.

ToesUp

" However, there was always something I had to do more of."

And WT wonders why no men are reaching out!! Geesh!

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Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

by Deaconblues1914 in

in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

jehovah has indeed blessed us.

ToesUp

"The question is,... do you want to be among the few survivors? If so folks, seek out your local congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

I so wish that I could tell you my story. The 40+ years of abuse that my family has witnessed. You know nothing of each and every person on this forum. Everyone has a story and who are you to judge who gets a free pass to the JW kingdom?Who knows, if this is even true, that you will get a free pass. You are currently on a apostate website and Jah is watching you.

Let me tell you how sad and passionate I feel at this current moment. I would rather enjoy my life right now than spend eternity with the people I have removed from my life. The most judgmental, hypocritical and narcissistic people I have ever met in my entire life. Why are we happier since we have left? Don't ever judge someone until you have walked in their shoes and say a prayer to Jehovah for visiting a apostate website.

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Observations from an Ex-Elder Part 2 - Cart Work

by doubtfull1799 in

up until i left recently i was participating in the cart work.

in the location where we used to set up near our local mall we never had one person stop and take literature or stop and chat - other than fellow brothers.

i thought maybe it was just a bad location or something.

ToesUp

It's all about the hours. Nothing else. That is all they measure you by. So glad we are out!

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Thorn in the Elders' Side

by IronSharpensIron in

i've been out of the jw for some time.

but i was just recalling this guy that had formerly been an elder, but had not agreed with the rest of the elders on some issues and had stepped down.

he continued to go to the meetings, make comments at the hall and be critical of the elders.

ToesUp

For 40 years, we had a family member that was very outspoken . He died over 10 years ago but was very critical of the Elders and headquarters. I don't think his comments would be tolerated with the current leadership. I believe, he would be DF'd ASAP!

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I Saw 2 JWs Doing Nothing With Their Cart Today

by minimus in

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friends

my girlfriend and i were walking along a seaside boulevard and lo and behold!

2 jws were standing by the pathway.

they made eye contact and said hello.

ToesUp

We have family members who are full time pioneers. They love it because they get to do their favorite thing....SIT! If it were hard to pioneer, trust me, they would be the last people to do it.

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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones

by AverageJoe1 in

new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).

february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.

re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.

ToesUp

It's interesting that this letter is coming out now. Don't the Elders visit these ones just prior to the Memorial? The Memorial is just a few short weeks away.

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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones

by AverageJoe1 in

new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).

february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.

re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.

ToesUp

The natives are getting restless a little more each day. When the Elders are visiting DF'd or DA'd people, they are like blondie said, "coming over to the dark side." The Elders can not defend "the troof" anymore. Try explaining to someone the new and approved overlapping generation teaching. What a cluster. The Come Back to Jehovah brochure does not cover why most have left the cult. Elders can not comprehend that. Questions about the ARC and child abuse cases are just something WT and the Elders do not want to discuss. It is embarrassing and the light is shining brightly on WT right now. Cowards will never stick around when the light is shining on them, they scatter like cockroaches once the light comes on.