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12My older brother has stopped his bible study
by pale.emperor ingood news people.
my older brother has abruptly stopped his bible study with the witnesses.
he was part-time shunning me during his study and his behavior was beginning to change into cult mode but he was thankfully woken up.
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New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?
by Isambard Crater ini'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.
i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.
now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?
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ToesUp
"There are loads of people on this forum and on the exJW Reddit thing who are still in for family or other similar reasons and would love to get out but can't.."
WT....a truly captive organization. Sad.
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Talked to a JW at a literature stand today
by nevermind inguys,.
i need your help in trying to wrap my head around this strange experience i had today talking with a jw lady sitting at a literature table in a busy outdoor shopping center.. i'm a very shy person, but i always wanted to ask these jws at their literature stands questions to start them thinking about the validity of watchtower teaching.
i finally mustered my strength today to talk to this jw lady.
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ToesUp
You will get more accomplished if you go to the nearest wall and bang your head over and over again, then trying to reason with JW's. I don't even try to reason with some family members anymore, it's just not worth the frustration. I have better things to do, like enjoying a beautiful sunset walk with my spouse.
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Baptism at 10 years of age! March 2017 broadcast
by stuckinarut2 in(i wanted to put this in the child abuse section of the forum!).
we have seen that during the march 2017 broadcast, m stephen lett has openly praised children who get baptised as young as 10!.
so lets summarize why it is wrong to push child baptism (not far off "infant baptism" that jws condemn other churches for).
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ToesUp
They just stated at the ARC. Witnesses do not get baptized until they are adults or almost adults. I guess 10 is an adult for Jw''s.
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Elders Correspondence Guidelines PDF
by pale.emperor inhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0b0d-uj0uvjrasknuagrmd0vixza/view.
interesting reading.
a few things i learned from reading this that i wasn't aware of when i was a jw:.
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ToesUp
Was this 2007 document a supplement to the Shepard the Flock book? Why shouldn't all publishers been issued a copy? They have a whole set of rules and guidelines that only those Judges have access to! Sounds fair! Wow! The crap we used to believe!
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Are There Many JWs That Have Actually Left?
by minimus init seems that most people who have been witnesses that i've known in the last 20 years are still jws.
they may not be as zealous as before but they still remain as jehovah's witnesses.
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ToesUp
A lot stay in for the social club and to keep their family.
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School bus driver accused of telling boy he would go to hell because of moms.
by ToesUp inschool-bus-driver-accused-of-telling-boy-hed-go-to-hell-because-of-his-mom/.
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Are There Many JWs That Have Actually Left?
by minimus init seems that most people who have been witnesses that i've known in the last 20 years are still jws.
they may not be as zealous as before but they still remain as jehovah's witnesses.
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ToesUp
Yes, most of our JW family and past friends are still in. What we do see more and more of are the older ones we knew are beginning to die. The future problem for WT, we do not see one for one replacements for the ones who have passed. We also noticed entire families are no longer all in. Many families we know have at least 1 or 2 family members that no longer go.
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Have you been featured in a Watchtower publication or on jw.org?
by George One Time inmaybe you were considered a good example or a picture was needed.. can you give some background of the procedure?
how about the vetting?
if you cannot give away your identity, that is fine.
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ToesUp
No...we were NEVER considered "exemplary." Our Daddies did not have a lot of money or wine and dine the GB members. My spouse and I were considered weak (aka losers). Thank God...it is why we are where we are today....FREE!
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What is the basis for advising “Don’t pursue higher studies”?
by venus intwo elders who visited my friend last week encouraged her not to pursue higher studies.
it seems they are dishing out the same old stuff: “the end is imminent, and this is the time to do more in the service; hence don’t waste your resources on higher studies.”.
i wonder whether there was some official communiqué (something that is sent out recently like letter to the elders, or kingdom ministry article …).
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ToesUp
One thing to remember....there are A LOT of Elders who are not being obedient to WT when it comes to sending their kids to college. The rank and file typically look to the Elders and they have the mind set, "if the Elders are doing it, it must be ok." It makes WT look bad and we know WT and JW's have to "look" good. lol
The kids who went off to college are moving forward with their lives. They are getting married, purchasing homes, having kids and making it financially. The kids who did not go to college are possibly getting married, living in the parents basement and struggling financially. This now pits the two groups of kids against one another. Little Johnny is an Elder and has a nice home, wife, kids and does not struggle financially when Little Jimmy (an Elder also) over here pursued "kingdumb interests." He and his wife are struggling financially, living with Mom and Dad. Both men are Elders. You don't think there is resentment on the part of Little Jimmy. He was a good little JW and did not go off to college but damn, Johnny and his wife just bought a nice new home and BMW. Little Jimmy then feels a little more superior than Johnny, when WT puts him on the assembly program, telling all the young ones how he sacrificed for Jah and how happy he and his wife are. Really Jimmy, you are happy? We have actually witnessed this scenario above. It is pretty amusing to watch.