Posts by ToesUp

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Told My Parents Yesterday That I Don't Want to Be a JW

by Saethydd in

i wasn't entirely sure what to expect when i made the decision to tell my parents how i really feel, but i was prepared for the worst, fortunately, it didn't come to that.

after i told them i didn't want to go to the meetings anymore it led to a long talk with them.

they made a number of irksome and woefully uninformed statements but at least they were not aggressive and have said that they won't force me to move out over this, though, i can tell they are hoping they can convince me to "accept the truth," as long as i still live with them.

ToesUp

"They seem to think that my desire to leave is simply because I have "hurt feelings over being disfellowshipped," and that I "lack the humility to accept discipline," so I've clearly made no headway in convincing them that this is an informed decision, but ah well, at least I don't have to feel like I'm living a lie anymore."

They all use this one! Makes you want to scream! What they are saying is "it's your fault." It is the JW way. Tell them, "what kind of loving organization kicks their members to the curb?" The world doesn't even do this to you when you need help.

I'm glad you had the guts to do this. You spoke your mind and that is great. It hurts but you stood your ground.

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How Far Up The Ladder Did You Go In JW Land?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i pretty much did it all.

vacation pioneered as a youngster and became a regular pioneer out of school.

i became a ms then an elder.....the organization pushes you to be somebody within the confines of their realm.

ToesUp

Let me correct my above statement. There is a apartment complex in Fishkill, Ny. that is housing some of the very old Bethelites. Not too many people know about this place. It is housing the very old. WT is doing 2 things...keeping the old ones quiet until they die. How many skeletons in the closet(s) of WT do the old ones know about? If you throw a 80-90 year old Bethelites out on the street, it doesn't look too good for WT.

We were told that they are laying off 50ish Bethelites. A comment was made, "they are still young enough to pick up and get a job." Really? Have any of these ones tried to get a decent job now days with no education, training or just a general ability in how to survive in the world? Most can not even rely on Social security because they never paid into it. It's so easy to say the above statement when you have been in your own little cocoon all your life and you have a comfy place to lay your head. WT only cares about WT and what it "appears" to be. They have a history of using you up and spitting you out.

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How Far Up The Ladder Did You Go In JW Land?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i pretty much did it all.

vacation pioneered as a youngster and became a regular pioneer out of school.

i became a ms then an elder.....the organization pushes you to be somebody within the confines of their realm.

ToesUp

As to the travelling overseers that is a different history, they have been well placed; sometimes even choosing the congregation. They are seen as "princes" and most of them are still getting a lot of the "handshakes"

We know personally that some retired CO's and their wives are receiving housing. Any housing for the "laid off" Bethelites? Me thinks not!

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How Far Up The Ladder Did You Go In JW Land?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i pretty much did it all.

vacation pioneered as a youngster and became a regular pioneer out of school.

i became a ms then an elder.....the organization pushes you to be somebody within the confines of their realm.

ToesUp

We NEVER gave out a golden handshake. I always thought that the Elders did a lot of hard work for zero pay. I watched my Dad give of himself in the congregation, work a full time job with a lot of over time and raise a large family. Did he get a green/golden handshake? NEVER, he had to make it on his own, all the while giving more and more to WT. WT has discouraged going to college which provides kids the opportunity to get a better job and make a decent living. Then on the other hand they want you to give until it hurts (for "kingdumb interests). A prime example of WT double speak. One of the main reasons we exited...HYPOCRISY!

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Convention Introductions 2017 "Don't Give Up!"

by accesible in

jw
friends

convention introductions.

2017 “don’t give up!” convention.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0bywm0b0qtwlsbzffazazotvfyxc.

ToesUp

They even put a big time clock on the screen. What is everyone, FIVE years old? Micro managing at its finest.

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How Far Up The Ladder Did You Go In JW Land?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i pretty much did it all.

vacation pioneered as a youngster and became a regular pioneer out of school.

i became a ms then an elder.....the organization pushes you to be somebody within the confines of their realm.

ToesUp

We were only lowly publishers. We were good for cleaning, donations and typically filling seats at the KH. My spouse never felt the need for added "privileges." He knew once he became a MS they would dump all over him. So glad to be free!

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Uninvited...again...

by Anders Andersen in

jw
friends

so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

ToesUp

"When the week of the party came around, we texted my mom for details (time and place). That's when we were told we were no longer invited. No explanation was given, but we both knew. They wanted it to be a JW-only affair."

And they wonder why you don't want to come back. You just can't make this sh*t up!

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COUNTDOWN! - The Great London Bethel Sell-off!

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

following the initial publicity for this multi-million pound sale sell-off - as highlighted here and here some three months ago....the sale process has been progressing with tender dates announced:green court (residential apartments):best and final bids invited by monday 19th december 2016 at 5pmno.1 elstree way:expressions of interest and initial bids by friday 3rd february 2017 at 5pmibsa house:expressions of interest and initial bids by friday 3rd march 2017 at 5pmwatch tower house:expressions of interest and initial bids by friday 31st march 2017 at 5pmconference centre & open field:expressions of interest and initial bids by friday 31st march 2017 at 5pmmanor point units 1 & 2:this property will be available for sale with vacant possession in early 2020buttermere court (residential apartments):bidding details to be announcedullswater court (residential apartments):bidding details to be announced.

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ToesUp

FIRE SALE...EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!!

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Uninvited...again...

by Anders Andersen in

jw
friends

so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

ToesUp

What a pathetic tactic. I truly believe it is done on purpose. To hurt those who have left. The JW way! No one invites us anywhere. We are off the radar. Thank God!

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One of the most defining thing that made me question JW church after 27 years was seeing the funeral discourse outline.

by Chook in

it gave the poor bastard who past away no respect, hardly mentioned anything about the deceased.

yet hijacked the event with cult propaganda..

ToesUp

If your a heavy contributor to WT they will tell all about your time, effort and donations towards Kingdumb interests. If you're a lowly publisher, they stick to the outline. We experienced this first hand with an friend who died. It's all in WHO you know.