Posts by ToesUp

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What woke you up?

by MrRoboto in

for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

ToesUp

The total lack of love and blatant hypocrisy. We had a CO that was unusally cruel. The years of how the Elders were abusive in their speech and actions. I just couldn't do it anymore. I didn't see the love for the congregation. It just wasn't there.

Then I learned about Beth Sarim. My spouse started reading Crisis of Conscience out loud to me. We started learning TTATT. What an eye opener. Once you learn TTATT, you can NEVER unsee it. NEVER! We made our exit and feel so much better. Why is that? I was told I/we would be miserable! I guess it was like we were told there was love among the brothers and sisters. They tell you these things and yet they are untrue. So much happier being free of the judgement and hypocrisy! Don't knock it til ya try it. lol

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Physically In, Mentally Out

by James Jack in

7 years ago i was this "ultra spiritual elder".

you name it, i was visible all over the region.

i was the coordinator, on the convention committee, rbc, had a talk at every convention and assembly, regular pioneer, etc.

ToesUp

I never understood why Elders had to step down if the kid makes a boo boo. I equate it to taking a parents drivers license away from the parent when the kid has a DUI. It makes NO/Zero sense. Like most WT crap, it make no sense. You weren't even home when your son fornicated. We have watched the favortism as well over the years. It's all about who you know and how much money you have.

I don't know how ones who are PIMO do it. I know so many who are stuck due to family in. It has to be draining! I really feel for you. I hope you can escape soon, it sounds like it is taking a toll. Hang in there!

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New Here

by Red.tomato in

hi everyone, this is my first post .. it takes a little bit of courage to do it, i have to admit and even thought i have been lurking for some time as time goes by it gets more and more difficult to keep attending meetings and just been around the friends in the congregation.

ever since i learned about the arc something inside of me just broke and it feels pretty hollow, now i pay attention to every single form of manipulation in every direction, what difference it makes with the catholic church or with any other religions ?

i wonder why the publishers are under obligation to report about their lives and decisions to the elders but they don´t keep informed the congregation about what´s going on legally other than russia.

ToesUp

Welcome. The ARC has woken many up. It's interesting that WT NEVER mentions it, I agree. They swept what they do not want others to find out about. We have mentioned it to most of our in JW family. It's interesting, they are clueless.

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Ex-Wife of Canadian JW Attorney Speaks to NATIONAL POST about KIDNAPPING sick JW kids

by AndersonsInfo in

jwn poster, uzzah, posted a link to this article in one of his older posts which he brought to the top, but i think this excellent article deserves a thread of its own.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/178981/1/interesting-phone-call-media-the-blood-issuenational post http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2041666sept.

28, 2009. a witness accountchurch denies moving children to avoid transfusions.

ToesUp

Rinna

Welcome. You sound like you have been through a lot in your life. I sense the pain in your post. I am sorry for that. I believe there is so much hidden abuse and corruption in the WT. I am also a firm believer in karma. It is coming for WT for all of its past and current abuse. So many dirty secrets.

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Reunited With My Brother

by pale.emperor in

my little brother on the left exited the cult after 29 years.. me in the middle.. my older brother on the right stopped his bible study after discovering ttatton youtube videos.. never lose hope guys!.

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ToesUp

Awesome!

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If you think JW have a poor conversion/retention rate have a read of this.

by joe134cd in

these are quotes from the following article.

i think they are quite key.

all things considered i don't think the dubs are doing to bad after all.

ToesUp

I can so see WT having the same issue. The next few years could put WT right up their with the Mormons. Reading these forums and seeing more and more making their exit gives us hope. You don't sell Kingdom Halls if all is well.

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International Covention...my elevator ride with head of Bethel and his ass kiss assistant!!

by Witness 007 in

melbourne international convention australia, thousands of watchtower robots and i happened to get in an elevator with viv mouritz one of the main men at bethel.

he had a young pretty sister who was escorting him around.

i stood behind them and rocognized him instantly.

ToesUp

JW rock stars! Janitors by day and rock star ass@oles by night!

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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

by pale.emperor in

absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

ToesUp

PE. This is great news.

I wonder if the video at last years regional assembly. You know the one stopping the young boy (Sergie?) from playing the violin had an effect on your Brother? Glad to hear is doing something he loves again! This gives us all hope for loved ones we have still in the org.

Mr. Toesup

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Opinions on family situation

by dogon in

my brother got married to a woman who was wild and selfish.

so for those who think i am just biased let me tell you the story.

he married her and about a year later she got pregnant.

ToesUp

Uh yeah...run like hell from that situation.

I have a sibling that is a train wreak, she is no longer welcome in my home or life. She is a lying, manipulative and would use and steal from her own grandma. She is married to a man just like her.

Run! Some people are way beyond help.

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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

by pale.emperor in

absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

ToesUp

PE...that is fantastic news! I am so happy for you. Now you can re connect with your brother. I think that is the best news I've heard on here in a long time. You are right, not only are they running the rank in file into the ground but the most uber are leaving too. Wow!

I agree with your brother. My spouse and I feel so much better once we exited the cult. Our alcohol bill has subsided by a large number. Now...I enjoy my occasional drink, I don't need it to get through the meetings, assemblies, service, etc.

Keep us posted on his progress. I am over the moon happy for you both.