Posts by ToesUp

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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!

what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?

have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.

ToesUp

Oh yes we have!!! It was an Elder. Guess what they got when they tried to intrude. NOTHING! We told him NOTHING. We felt like we didn't owe him anything. This is a volunteer organization, not the FBI or IRS! We pretty much let him know to....BUTT OUT!

Remember....the Elders only get as much power as WE allow. Have some fun with it. If you ever want to piss someone off, find the achilles' heel. Most Elders love the power and title of being an Elder (that is their achilles heel). Don't give them the power and they get pissed.

It was kinda fun playing with the little ass*ole!

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gb, PLEASE, PLEASE UP THE ORGANIZATIONAL HARSHNESS IN 2018

by steve2 in

sometimes i have expressed a longing for jw organization to tone down its rhetoric and become, well, nicer and more loving.

i have not been alone in my hope.

some posters have even said that if a wave of kindness washed over jw organization and, say, the shunning doctrine was modified (e.g., left up to the individual's conscience without fear of retribution from elders), they'd go back.

ToesUp

Yes...WT needs to keep up the good work. They are doing a tremendous job hanging themselves. WELL DONE WT!!!

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Tight Pants Tony and the 1st international broadcast started a chain reaction that woke up an uber pioneer

by Bad_Wolf in

hopefully more are on the same path.

here is the story..... this person i know was the model jw, and them and their spouse could have really moved up.

they knew i was gone and awhile ago started asking me questions.

ToesUp

Oh....the tight pants talk! That was the final nail in the coffin for us. My spouse (never a MS and well pass the age of 23) was infuriated with that talk. We were beginning our fade and listening to that talk was incredible. I have heard more people left due to that talk. So many other encouraging things could have been discussed.

Thanks Tony!!!

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Whole families leaving the Org has increased

by pomo6780 in

i have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.

some include former elders and ministerial servants.

i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.

ToesUp

Yes...this WHOLE family left. Yes...we were stumbled. Watching the blatant hypocrisy, judgement and just plain down right abuse this organization lays on it's members is just staggering. Life is good! We hope to hear of more entire families leaving in the near future!

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The emptiness…

by Maryo in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_fh9cygpp4&feature=share.

ToesUp

Listen to that song and the lyrics. Can we get any more depressed?

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The emptiness…

by Maryo in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_fh9cygpp4&feature=share.

ToesUp

12,666 in attendance. Ironic? 666? lol

From our observation, a lot of the Dubbies are spending their time traveling and not a assemblies. Several that we have been in touch with are going on cruises, Hawaii & world travel. They are not seeing any end in sight and have watched all of their elder relatives give up any kind of life for an end with fruit and Pandas, The next generation won't make the same mistake. Life....here we come!!!!

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Another congregation bites the dust

by NikL in

jw
friends

went to the meeting last night with my believing wife.

the co was visiting and delivered a really cult-ish talk on loyalty but that's another story.. they made the announcement that starting january 1st they were going to have only 3 congregations in this town instead of 4.. they are dissolving one and growing the territories of the remaining 3. the reason given is that many of the elders are getting up there in age and can't do what they used to do.

basically not enough elders and ministerial servants...or even men reaching out for that matter.

ToesUp

Yes...people are leaving. The ole domino effect. Telling the rank and file not to look at the internet is like telling the Elders not to look a porn. lol

Watchtower is squeezing "bums" in the seats so it doesn't seem apparent to the rank and file what is going on. A shell game WT has played for years. People are not stupid.

The interesting thing is, we told two family members that we no longer attend. They didn't even ask why. I found this perplexing. My spouse said...."they already know why, they are seeing it in their own congregations. The lack of love, hypocrisy and judgement from the JW's is right in front of everyone's faces."

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Attendents sit at the best seats

by Quarterback in

well it's been awhile since i got angry and wanted to post on here again.

last week's watchtower about the subject of love had something to say about the hard working attendants.

it seems that they are choosing to sit in the best seats at the convention.

ToesUp

More micro managing. Watchtower wonders why no one wants to reach out and "do more."

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Another congregation bites the dust

by NikL in

jw
friends

went to the meeting last night with my believing wife.

the co was visiting and delivered a really cult-ish talk on loyalty but that's another story.. they made the announcement that starting january 1st they were going to have only 3 congregations in this town instead of 4.. they are dissolving one and growing the territories of the remaining 3. the reason given is that many of the elders are getting up there in age and can't do what they used to do.

basically not enough elders and ministerial servants...or even men reaching out for that matter.

ToesUp

"The bent of the discussion from the platform was that brothers who are not reaching out to be elders and ms are showing lack of faith and are apostate leaning.."

The beatings will continue until morale improves. Gee....I wonder why so many are exiting. We left...who the heck wants to stay where they are not wanted?

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You may PRETEND to care - in reality you are SELFISH!

by wannabefree in

that;s what my wife (and all jw's) gets to hear about us at the kingdom hall today, (hmmmm, i wonder if she'll raise her hand to answer this one) ... .

watchtower study ... today, apostates and others who create divisions in the congregation use “smooth talk and flattering speech.” (romans 16:17, 18) they may pretend to care about others, but in reality, they are selfish.. (the watchtower - study edition (simplified version) 10/17 page 4 paragraph 7).

ToesUp

My spouse and I take what WT writes with a grain of salt. Our life and overall attitude has improved immensely since exiting the cult. What does that tell you?

Yes...we lost "friends" but not the kind of friends we want. The family that no longer speaks to us or has limited association. Well....that is their loss! We are a very nice and loving family and we will not change in that department.

WT is VERY worried about the amount of people that are exiting and figuring out that this is not "Jehovah's loving organization." Karma is coming to bite WT. I have a feeling there are some rocky days coming for WT. It's always a pleasure to watch a narcissist squirm and sweat. Grab your popcorn and enjoy the show everyone!!!