Posts by ToesUp

Ignore it! If you don't want to out yourself, don't respond. I know it is hard. There are a lot of good people in the org but they will rat you out in a heart beat. Ignore it and any calls, visits, etc. They will forget about you eventually. Sad but true.

You gotta make a clean break. Once you start opening up to them, they will report you. If you don't care about being DF'd....talk away. Good luck!

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Can't believe we are still here

by moreconfusedthanever in

just this week i had the jws knock on my door.

sisters from my old congregation.

we exchanged the usual polite conversation.

ToesUp

I thing the JW's are starting to see it. They are depressed because of all the broken promises. Sad

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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!

what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?

have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.

ToesUp

" My wife and I have a time set for mid-afternoons on Saturdays."

I bet this guy is a real kick ass in the sack. lol

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Positive Topic - ‘Good Elders’ or Extra Special Kindness shown by elders

by Farmer Jim1 in

jw
friends

after the last topic getting me mad, does anyone have a positive experience of dealing with an elder or a particular favourite elder that was a top bloke?.

ToesUp

Yes, we new some good Elders but as one poster said above, in the end they will tow the party line. A cult has a tight grip on people. Even good people. These Elders THINK they are doing the right thing and that Jah is watching them. Like I said...It's a tight grip. TRUST NO ONE!!!

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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!

what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?

have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.

ToesUp

Oh yes we have!!! It was an Elder. Guess what they got when they tried to intrude. NOTHING! We told him NOTHING. We felt like we didn't owe him anything. This is a volunteer organization, not the FBI or IRS! We pretty much let him know to....BUTT OUT!

Remember....the Elders only get as much power as WE allow. Have some fun with it. If you ever want to piss someone off, find the achilles' heel. Most Elders love the power and title of being an Elder (that is their achilles heel). Don't give them the power and they get pissed.

It was kinda fun playing with the little ass*ole!

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gb, PLEASE, PLEASE UP THE ORGANIZATIONAL HARSHNESS IN 2018

by steve2 in

sometimes i have expressed a longing for jw organization to tone down its rhetoric and become, well, nicer and more loving.

i have not been alone in my hope.

some posters have even said that if a wave of kindness washed over jw organization and, say, the shunning doctrine was modified (e.g., left up to the individual's conscience without fear of retribution from elders), they'd go back.

ToesUp

Yes...WT needs to keep up the good work. They are doing a tremendous job hanging themselves. WELL DONE WT!!!

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Tight Pants Tony and the 1st international broadcast started a chain reaction that woke up an uber pioneer

by Bad_Wolf in

hopefully more are on the same path.

here is the story..... this person i know was the model jw, and them and their spouse could have really moved up.

they knew i was gone and awhile ago started asking me questions.

ToesUp

Oh....the tight pants talk! That was the final nail in the coffin for us. My spouse (never a MS and well pass the age of 23) was infuriated with that talk. We were beginning our fade and listening to that talk was incredible. I have heard more people left due to that talk. So many other encouraging things could have been discussed.

Thanks Tony!!!

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Whole families leaving the Org has increased

by pomo6780 in

i have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.

some include former elders and ministerial servants.

i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.

ToesUp

Yes...this WHOLE family left. Yes...we were stumbled. Watching the blatant hypocrisy, judgement and just plain down right abuse this organization lays on it's members is just staggering. Life is good! We hope to hear of more entire families leaving in the near future!