I would respond, "the only thing I feel guilty about is spending way too long listening and following WT bulls*it."
Let them believe what they want, they are stuck in a cult. YOU ARE FREE!!!
i was informed by my jw father tonight that the reason i don't go to meetings is because "of a guilty conscious".
i just done an eye roll and walked away.
i just can't make this stuff up..
I would respond, "the only thing I feel guilty about is spending way too long listening and following WT bulls*it."
Let them believe what they want, they are stuck in a cult. YOU ARE FREE!!!
just had to share... a former friend of my wife's, has just left our house, unbeknown to us, her and her husband have been inactive for about a year and a half, they have pre teen boys too.
she reached out to my wife as she had heard that we were apostates etc and needed someone to talk to.. .
after her father dying she was in a bad place mentally and emotionally and reached out to her cong for support, apon receiving 0 she turned to the bible for comfort only in her raw emotional state to realize that jehovah was a murderous unfair god and then her wheels of rational reasoning started turning.. she questioned things and was outspoken about things and attracted elder attention... long story short she wanted to connect with a friendly ear and she splurged she's never going back, the bible is all bulls**t and it's a cult, despite not knowing most of ttatt we all shared experiences and watched her eyes boggle at (stuckinarut... the first euphoric high) the un scandal, beth sarim, ray franz, 607, arc.
These are the experiences that excite us!!! When you no longer attend meetings and can not see with your physical eye, the decline, it constantly makes you wonder what is going on inside.I can see on this forum and others that people ARE waking up. When you are still in the cult and you experience the lack of love it shatters you. Once you learn TTATT and find out you were in a cult, your jaw hits the floor.
It's cool that you were there for them. I couldn't have done this exit alone, it's tough.
Great news!!! Thank you for sharing.
i've noticed in the past 10 years that the social support that used to be available in the congs, a shoulder to cry on, elders to help with family/marriage issues these seem to have been purposely withdrawn.
counsel is even heard from the platform that the elders are not there to help people with their problems.. so first in the 80s-90s they take away the congregation get to getters and social events and now they seem to be going one step further in taking away the emotional support for people too.. this will take away an aspect that i'm sure was keeping alot of people in the borg, the community support.
if that's not there and its just about meetings and ministry how many will start to get their emotional support elsewhere?.
We received zero emotional support several years ago. A real wake up call!!! The Elders couldn't even show a bit of concern for our family. I would like to personally thank them all. We wouldn't be here today (out of the cult) if it wasn't for the "loving concern from the Elder body." lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7ilnoxvu4.
she helped me.
sent me my first copy of crisis of conscience (free) grace has been featured on many talk shows, including sally jesse raphael, raising awareness of support for cult abuse survivors.
RIP Grace (Mouthy). You will be missed.
"oh i'm not going to worry about it, armageddon will be here by then!".
-including me.
"Jehovah will take care of it, in his due time."
Yadda, yadda, yadda!!!
you start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".
you pretend to knock on the doors.
you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.
...when you tell still in JW's that you are truly happier out than in and they seem pissed off and perplexed by your happiness.
avon lake ohio.
while new mega church being built right down the street!.
That is a beautiful site!!!! Maybe WT will sell it to a church. They sold ours to a church a couple of years ago. Let's see....I can't do any work for a church and it's up to my conscience if I want to go to a wedding or funeral at a church but it's ok for WT to sell a dedicated KH to a church? You just can't make this sh*t up!!!!
you start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".
you pretend to knock on the doors.
you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.
You know you are fully awake and done with it all when....
you tell your entire family, it's 100% BS and you don't care if they shun you!!!
its been awhile since i've commented but i come by and read your posts about once a week.
so why do i need a pep talk ?
after almost 2 years into my fade these bastards won't give it a rest constant hang ups on my answering machine and today for the first time in about 6 months they come to my apartment complex but thankfully couldn't get in they did keep buzzing me so they were here looking for me.
We dodged em for years. Didn't answer the door, let messages go to voice mail, never responded to notes left in door, etc.
Eventually they will get the point. If you bump into one, just tell them that you are doing fine and if you need them, you know how to get in touch with them.
You DO NOT owe them anything. Enjoy the reunion and if they piss you off after that, LET EM HAVE IT!!! LOL
from 2012 thru 2016, congregations in georgia and alabama collected funds to build a new assembly hall in south atlanta.
to date, 3.5 million dollars was collected and 75 acres was purchased.
the branch decided that this assembly hall was not needed.
Wait till these crooks disappear "in the twinkling of an eye" (to the Cayman Islands).