Posts by cleanideas

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Is disfellowshipping as popular as it was years ago?

by minimus in

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i seldom hear of people getting df'd anymore.

years ago it seemed there were a few per year in a congregation.

cleanideas

Well it's been a good 15 years since I was a JW but at the time we had heaps of kids DF'd. The strange thing is when it happened it was a massive group of them getting DF'd all at once. Around 15 or so total. Several boys around 15 - 17 years old got DF'd for trying pot a few times, others for minor sexual stuff. Also an elder committed adultery with a pioneer sister and a former CO in the hall got DF'd for cheating on his wife with, you guessed it, a pioneer sister. That hall was filled with scandal. LOL!

The PO was actually removed the following CO visit over it all. HAHA! He was a jerk anyway. I got hauled in the back room just because I saw a witness from another congregation smoke a cigarette and I didn't tell on him. They were furious as to why I wouldn't say something. The reason was simple, he told us all he was getting DF'd at the next meeting because he smoked so there was literally NO REASON to tell the elders, they already knew, but they wanted me to be in Gestapo mode I guess, reporting any and all infractions. UGH!

DF'ing people does that religion no good. The grand majority of the kids DF'd never returned. It's hard for kids to get kicked out and then have any desire to come back. I mean seriously, to get reinstated you have to go through shunning at the KH and then you still can't have any friends outside the KH? That's far to unreasonable. I'm still in contact with many of the kids that got DF'd for pot, and the good news is they all have very happy lives now and don't even smoke it anymore. If they had never gotten kicked out they might still be slaves in that cult.

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jw.org cart days numbered?

by jookbeard in

reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

i bet its very minimal.

naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

cleanideas

It's only a matter of time before insidetheKH leaves the JW's for good. Seriously, they clearly know the ramifications should the elders ever find out they frequent an "apostate" website. The elders would totally drag them into the back room for a nice long chat. And they would kiss the "privilege" of aux pioneering goodbye. But i'm glad. So many times I have seen people who are mega super JW's come on sites like this or make Youtube videos standing up for the JW's, to some years later feeling foolish of what they used to believe (including me) and leaving that religion. We will welcome you with open arms insidetheKH when that day comes, and help you as you transition from this cult. You won't agree now of course, but you will in time.

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To all anointed wannabe losers, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, OR ELSE!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

once again the beloved and loving governing body are demonstrating their utmost disdain for the rank and file members of the jehovah church.

let us review this interesting trend, starting with some facts!

yay, facts!!!

cleanideas

Jan,

The numbers are pulled directly from the Jehovah's Witnesses publications. In the past they would use the dropping number of memorial partakers as "proof" that the end was near. Now from their own publications it has raised to 14,000 from what the average number was of around 8,500 for decades. The official line is NO LONGER the numbers are falling. If anything they allude that the massive increase may be from people who are not really anointed but just think they are. Either way they say to leave it in Gods hands. To verify the current number of partakers you can download the 2015 yearbook from the JW website and go to page 176 under Grand Totals. Here is a link you should check out that explains it very clearly what has happened along with where you can find the material in the Jehovah's Witnesses literature. http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/memorial-partakers.php

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To all anointed wannabe losers, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, OR ELSE!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

once again the beloved and loving governing body are demonstrating their utmost disdain for the rank and file members of the jehovah church.

let us review this interesting trend, starting with some facts!

yay, facts!!!

cleanideas

I'm embarrassed to say this now, but back when I was a boy I used to really look forward to seeing the number of memorial partakers drop. I was told paradise would be here before they all died out. Now over 14,000??? What a sick joke!

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

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friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

cleanideas

I can understand some of what you are going through. My mom disowned me years ago as I am no longer a JW. In her last letter to me making it clear she will not know me anymore she spoke of how she "loved" me, but of course I view love by the actions of another, not cold words. How sad for them to be so controlled by this horrible family destroying cult.

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Memorial Question?

by naazira in

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friends

over the years, i've come to notice that some of the friends will not touch the plate with the bread or the cup of wine ,when the emblems are being passed around.

i remember a row of 3 people told the brother to skip over them.

every year i have noticed this behavior.

cleanideas

I used to be the brother who would help pass the emblems around to everyone in the hall. After the meeting was over some other brothers and I would eat a bit of the bread and drink the wine. I was told it was alright because the memorial was officially over. Not sure of the official Watchtower rule on it, but I think it's OK. Oh well, maybe I'm one of the Anointed and this is Yahweh working mysteriously???

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Newest Caleb & Sophia video is a commercial

by cappytan in

caleb states, "now i can speak to chinese people.

" ummm, there are many chinese people that speak english, caleb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p2tgjvxdb4.

cleanideas

I swear the JW's just get more bizarre by the day! These cartoons really creep me out!

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Kissing hanks rear....

by _Morpheus in

i havent seen this posted in a while and i think its really well done, so i share here now:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdp7pkecjvq.

cleanideas

Hilarious! Thanks for posting!

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Can you help me grasp Jehovah's Witnesses as (Emotionally and Mentally Violent) vs Physically Violent of all Religions?

by JWCart in

can i upload a audio tape of how evil jws are, you won't believe how wicked they are!

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cleanideas

Oh wow, yes you should share it. See if you can create a Youtube account and upload it there. You can share the link here.

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WTS competition

by Half banana in

just now 10am friday morning, had a phone call from central london to tell me that opposite the houses of parliament outside westminster tube station the wts (wobbly trolley society) are standing there being overshadowed by others with loudspeaker and taller placards declaring "jws are a cult".

sounds like fun!.

but will this sort of publicity harm or benefit the jw org?.

cleanideas

Protesters to JW's will not necessarily fuel some kind of persecution complex. I was a ministerial servant, pioneer, and went to Bethel. I saw all kinds of "apostate protesters" in my time. They didn't entrench me further into the religion, honestly it made me curious to learn more about apostates because at the time I honestly believed I had the truth and I wanted to learn why they didn't want to be JW's anymore so I could help them. Of course once you start to research it all it's painfully obvious you have been lied to, and now I am grateful for all the protesters as they helped me find freedom.