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  David Splane address bethelites

  by rosesinbloom in

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  i did not write this piece.

  i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.

  hope some of you enjoy it too.

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  This week at the meeting elders call friend in the room.

  by poopie in

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  ok heres latest at kh .i have a friend of mine who is df but trying to get reinstated i know you may ask why but its a free country anyway he is a frienldly chap and likes to say hello to old friends.

  he does his hellos very discreetly not makeing a scene.

  well the elders have noticed him saying hello to people at hall so they invited him in back room.

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  Elders derive their power from those that give it to them.

  No acknowledgement. No power.

  In this instance I like to quote the Godfather III where Michael sends Calo to kill Lucchesi. Right before he kills him, he whispers in his ear......"Power wears out those who don't have it."
  
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  Missionary Deceptively/Mistakenly Misquotes Scripture.........

  by The Searcher in

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  ....................on jw broadcasting.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201509_1_video (between 14 - 16 mins.).

  allyson lee, who is a missionary in nicaragua, misquoted "a very special scripture" - acts 1:8. she said, "that the good news will be preached to the most distant part of the earth.".

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  Good post Searcher. Once the org acknowledges that the r & f need to put their faith in Christ instead of Jehovah, they will no longer be viewed or identified as Jehovah's mouthpiece which in effect takes power away from them.

  To every JW Jehovah is EVERYTHING. Jehovah is their Savior, their Redeemer, their Judge, and ALL the glory belongs to Him.

  I guess Jesus came to suffer, be tortured, be killed, and resurrected to heavenly King of God's Kingdom just to be spit on again by the WTS.
  
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  Conditioned to fail

  by Jordandemm in

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  just want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.

  it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.

  but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.

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  @ Jordan.... - welcome to the board. It's not easy integrating into society from being chained, like you mention, to what seems an invisible wall.

  Try joining hobby clubs, volunteering, and reading your Bible for inner peace.

  Although you will come across people on this forum who have lost all faith and no longer believe in God, everyone has good intentions and good hearts. They are sincere in their personal assessments on how they feel. You may come across some who can become argumentative if you engage them in conversation going against what THEY believe, however, you will find that it's NOTHING, let me repeat, NOTHING, like you will find in a Khall. As you may have already experienced, brothers will basically step on you, gossip about you, bully you, back stab you, and kiss more rear-end than you, in order to look more righteous than you. You have nothing to worry about that here.

  Here you'll find sincere people and TRUE friends. Not those 'insta' friends you get from Khalls until you disagree with their god the gb.
  
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  Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Brother Jeramy in

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  allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.

  i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.

  some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).

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  This Is why So Many Leave The WTBTS

  by Hairyhegoat in

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  the watchtower, november 1, 1987, pp.

  awake!, november 22, 1970, pp.

  14, 29; the watchtower, august 15, 1987, p. 20; the watchtower, april 15, 1986, p. 28-30 .

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  bottom line on new generation thinking -very simple

  by nowwhat? in

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  when they came up with the overlapping generations new lite, they must have received alot of "where's the scriptural precedent?!

  so they came up with the account of joseph and his brothers to shut them up.

  still they are trying to make a round peg fit in a square hole to fit 1914 in the equation.

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  Ahhhhh the generational teaching. Nothing screams "time is short and you must survive so act now and join our organization!!!" more than the generation teaching.
  

  Then you have imbecile lunch boxes like Stephen Lett who look like they want to jump out of their clothes and run around naked screaming "please believe me, I'm not lying!!".
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  Just two weeks in our new home and the knock at the door happens!!

  by truthseekeriam in

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  just relaxing with my morning coffee enjoying looking at the pictures fipper shared of the camping trip when the dreaded knock came.

  of course the dogs beat me to the door followed by my daughter trying to catch them, she looks through the giant peep hole and waves me away saying "its them.

  " i almost just walked away from the door when i saw the sweet face of a 5/6 year old little boy with his mom and dad and couldn't resist talking to them.. i opened the door and smiled and said jehovah's witnesses?

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  @ truthseek... - I found the visit from the elders a bit amusing. As if them showing up and posturing would make you open the door. Incredible. I wanted to suggest next time, depending on how long their arrogance permits them to stay at your front door, I would call the police in a very excited state and plead with them to send a squad car as two men are trying to break in through your front door. But then again, that's just me .
  
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  Just lost one more friend

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i used to talk weekly on skype, with a sister from another country.

  i didn't tell her much about my research and change of beliefs, until today ... in the conversations some doctrines came up and i told her i don't believe 1914, first, then i went on to tell her that i also don't believe there are 2 classes of christians, that i did not believe the government of the kingdom will be in heaven while the kingdom en earth, that i believe the whole kingdom will be on earth, and that from what i read, jesus was pretty clear that he will come back to earth, visibly.

  the "god always had an organization" dogma was dropped and i told her it is not true, out of 9000 years of human history, it's not sure there were 1000 years when god had a loyal organization ..... i did not plan to tell her all this things, but it just happened, and things came up in the conversation... and once i dropped one bomb i dropped them all .... she said i do not sound like i am one of the jehovah's witnesses any more ... and even though we ended the call with "see ya" i have the feeling i will not hear from her any more ... .

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  It's hard to stay composed when you know your friend is experiencing deceit by a very sinister organization.

  At times, I also have to catch myself from doing the same with my family. I take comfort in the following words of our Lord Christ in John 16:33:

  "I have said this to you, so that in me you may have peace. In the world you face persecution. But take courage; I have conquered the world!" ~ New Revised Standard Version

  .....that includes the Watchtower Society.
  
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  The Heartless JW

  by babygirl30 in

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  2. friends

  soooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.

  in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.

  i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.

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  @ babygirl30 - When I read your post I couldn't help but remember Waco, Jonestown, and some other instances where people willingly did something so unnatural it was disturbing. I'm so sorry about your experience.
  

  Your mom while she does deserve part of the blame, is acting as a result of deep indoctrination. Witnesses have been continually ingrained over and over again that they will be persecuted and incessantly chased down by Satan. Therefore, anything that deviates from the WTS teachings is evil with a capital "E". Hence you, your household, your lifestyle, your illness, your phone call is and was evil.
  

  The WTS does a phenomenal job at stripping away every bit of our personal emotions and replacing them with theirs NOT the bibles. The result is your mom's incredibly evil response. There is no way, no way, absolutely none, that Jesus would have responded this way. But again, she has been taught to hate anything outside of the WTS. It also reminds me of the story of the Samaritan and when Jesus sat down to eat with sinners.

  I'm just glad to see that the WTS is finally being dealt with. Hopefully it starts an avalanche that does not stop until they become incapacitated and can no longer spread their message of hate and exclusivity.