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  RAY FRANZ TODAY

  by Scott77 in

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  its has been almost two decades if i am correct since ray franz released the heartbreaking books: "crisis of conscience" and "in search of christian freedom".

  since then, many of us have been released from bondage of the wts and set free.

  by the way, where is ray franz today, what is he doing?

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  I thought of what may happen if it was me

  by Truth and Justice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a brother goes to the thursday night meeting, and an elder says that he and a couple of elders would like to visit with him.

  " the elder says "well lets wait till after the meeting.

  " so he waits.

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  @ Diogenesister - I'm with you on this one. I don't know if I misunderstood or misread. Either way the response by the elders is probably right on. When backed into a corner they revert to ignorance and parrot their little secret manual. It's rather disturbing to see so many people on the same pipe inhaling the same smoke.

  It makes me sick that I have to sit through an assembly this weekend.
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  Thinking about taking my fiance to a meeting.. going as a "worldly person"

  by OneStepOut93 in

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  2. experiences

  i may take my fiance to a meeting.

  give them fake names and just see how my fiance reacts.

  he's been curious about seeing what i hated so much about the whole thing (not that he'll really understand everything, i mean of course he never will to my extent but)... i'd like to see what an outsiders view on the whole thing would be as well.

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  @ Overlapping..... - that's the problem within. Brother charismatic was truly repentant otherwise why would he even waste his time getting ready, preparing and studying, just for the heck of it? He could have been d'f 1 day before he showed up at that hall having made a sincere heartfelt prayer asking for forgiveness that night. BUT because of the pharisee-like self imposed rules and policies of the WTS the brother would have to wait. THEN after waiting at least 6 months, again depending on the offense, he would have to write a letter praising the organization and how it's man's only chance for survival. THEN he would have to grovel at the feet of the elder panel. THEN he would have to wait to see if these untrained circus monkeys saw mind, physical, and emotional repentance to the appropriate level, AND if they had no poop left over in their anal cavity, so that he could be called back in to the back room and enslaved again to the WTS.

  @ OneStep..... - I would have your husband walk up to a member perhaps an elder and ask that I know why Jesus came to earth and his purpose and NOW he would like to get baptized. Once they object and advise that there's a process, have him tell them about the eunuch and the jailer and how they were baptized right away.
  
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  Geoffrey Jackson's Amnesia at the Royal Commission!

  by The Searcher in

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  2. beliefs

  at 20:00 - 21:30 in his testimony, mr. geoffrey jackson - in answer to mr. stewart's question about the governing body claiming to be god's spokespersons - claimed that it would be presumptuous of them to say that they were the only spokespersons which god was using.

  mr. jackson doesn't seem to know what he and his fellow g.b.

  members - and the providers of his lifestyle, the wtbts - actually teach as "bible truth.

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  Thanks again Searcher.
  
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  David Splane address bethelites

  by rosesinbloom in

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  2. beliefs

  i did not write this piece.

  i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.

  hope some of you enjoy it too.

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  This week at the meeting elders call friend in the room.

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  ok heres latest at kh .i have a friend of mine who is df but trying to get reinstated i know you may ask why but its a free country anyway he is a frienldly chap and likes to say hello to old friends.

  he does his hellos very discreetly not makeing a scene.

  well the elders have noticed him saying hello to people at hall so they invited him in back room.

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  Elders derive their power from those that give it to them.

  No acknowledgement. No power.

  In this instance I like to quote the Godfather III where Michael sends Calo to kill Lucchesi. Right before he kills him, he whispers in his ear......"Power wears out those who don't have it."
  
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  Missionary Deceptively/Mistakenly Misquotes Scripture.........

  by The Searcher in

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  2. beliefs

  ....................on jw broadcasting.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201509_1_video (between 14 - 16 mins.).

  allyson lee, who is a missionary in nicaragua, misquoted "a very special scripture" - acts 1:8. she said, "that the good news will be preached to the most distant part of the earth.".

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  Good post Searcher. Once the org acknowledges that the r & f need to put their faith in Christ instead of Jehovah, they will no longer be viewed or identified as Jehovah's mouthpiece which in effect takes power away from them.

  To every JW Jehovah is EVERYTHING. Jehovah is their Savior, their Redeemer, their Judge, and ALL the glory belongs to Him.

  I guess Jesus came to suffer, be tortured, be killed, and resurrected to heavenly King of God's Kingdom just to be spit on again by the WTS.
  
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  Conditioned to fail

  by Jordandemm in

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  2. friends

  just want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.

  it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.

  but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.

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  @ Jordan.... - welcome to the board. It's not easy integrating into society from being chained, like you mention, to what seems an invisible wall.

  Try joining hobby clubs, volunteering, and reading your Bible for inner peace.

  Although you will come across people on this forum who have lost all faith and no longer believe in God, everyone has good intentions and good hearts. They are sincere in their personal assessments on how they feel. You may come across some who can become argumentative if you engage them in conversation going against what THEY believe, however, you will find that it's NOTHING, let me repeat, NOTHING, like you will find in a Khall. As you may have already experienced, brothers will basically step on you, gossip about you, bully you, back stab you, and kiss more rear-end than you, in order to look more righteous than you. You have nothing to worry about that here.

  Here you'll find sincere people and TRUE friends. Not those 'insta' friends you get from Khalls until you disagree with their god the gb.
  
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  Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Brother Jeramy in

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  2. beliefs

  allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.

  i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.

  some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).

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  This Is why So Many Leave The WTBTS

  by Hairyhegoat in

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  2. friends

  the watchtower, november 1, 1987, pp.

  awake!, november 22, 1970, pp.

  14, 29; the watchtower, august 15, 1987, p. 20; the watchtower, april 15, 1986, p. 28-30 .

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