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  They Push You In,,,,Then Punish You If You Go!

  by new boy in

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  they brag about the fact that they the don' t baptize their babies because "how can a baby 'know' what religion it wants to believe in the rest of it's life!".

  but a 14 year old does?.....they put so much presure on their children to get dunked, that if your not baptize by 18 years old there is something really "wrong" with you.. so the poor kid does it, just to get everyone off their backs.

  legally a minor can't be held to a contract if they are under 18 years old and why?

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  I had barely cleared Mom's delivery tunnel when I saw a brother standing there with a "Live Forever" book.
  
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  Those keenly following umbertoecho ARC Brief Update.

  by MightyV8 in

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  2. scandals

  i feel it is comfortable to say,.

  yes her arc hearing has come and gone.. yes her hearing was so powerful, her allotted time was tripled!.

  yes, information handed over "mind blowing" response from arc.

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  Here's to hoping that one day soon, real soon, Hollywood will make a movie similar to 'Spotlight' and expose these blood sucking GB maggots for the true filth that they are.
  
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  Lyman Swingle (GB) told me what would bring down the Organization!

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was about 15 years ago.......... i was at a one day special event in woodburn or.

  i was talking to lyman swingle about how the society could save some money.

  it was a crazy idea ( to crazy to relate here)...............anyway he laughed and said to me.. "brother..........we have always had the money to do the things we needed to do.......and if we didn't.......we felt it was god's holy spirit telling us, it wasn't what we should be doing".......so...i said "so the money is like a barometer, no approval, no money"......he said "yea..... i guess you could say that!

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  A New Year and a New Start For Lurkers

  by The Searcher in

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  2. beliefs

  what better time of the year (than hogmanay) to encourage lurkers to examine black & white examples of org teachings which are false, and for them to rebelliously examine what is presented as "truth?

  " (km september 2007 - question box) .

  here are some previous examples for those who have yet to read them: .

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  10 Years On...

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just a note that 10 years ago, (christmas day, 2005), was my last time inside a kh.

  a lot has taken place for the better in those 10 years:.

  1. met the love of my life and happily married for 9 years, two days ago.. 2. completed a master's degree.. 3. work at senior management level in the it field.. 4. have a savings and retirement, and no debt outside of a mortgage and 1 car loan.. 5. lots of travel to several places that i never would have done as a jw.. 6. contribute to what i believe are meaningful causes.. 7. read, think, and meditate for myself.. 8. have a great extended family i inherited from my wife.. 9. lots of other great stuff, too much to list.. none of this is intended to be boastful.

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  Jason, I don't believe you for one second that all of the good things you listed you have actually experienced. No way!

  You have deviated from the ex-JW miserable life script. And I for one will not tolerate it.

  You should be knee deep in debt, gone through at least 2 divorces, have taken up hardcore drinking, dabbled in dope, have a real crappy job, slept with half the town, and are near the verge of suicide.

  Oh wait, you didn't buy the bull**** when they were selling it.
  
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  Some amazing insights on why the the name Jehovah is no more used in the new testament scriptures

  by paradisebeauty in

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  2. beliefs

  i read this blog post by a person i have no idea if she is still a jw or not, but it made me think and gain some new perspective on using the divine name.

  please read it if you can, it will change your view!

  and it totally devalidates the jw dogma that they are the only ones using god's name, no, they are actually orphans.

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  Thank you for the thread PB. Very informative.
  
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  Why do girls have a hymen?

  by JWchange in

  1. social
  2. family

  if you believe humans evolved, and were not created, why would having a hymen help, especially as no other mammal has one?

  if you believe humans were created by {a} god, or intelligent beings with advanced technology, what was the reason for a hymen?

  i'm interested to hear your thoughts on this unusual subject, not many people talk about..

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  @ cofty - your admittance just validates my point. Yes, your tone is rude and not conducive to a healthy friendly discussion environment where other users are encouraged to participate. Instead, they shy away because of precisely your ignorance to the rules of this forum. Read the following posted on the welcome page:

  "......and provide a friendly, tolerant and informative environment where you can ask questions, share information and make new friends."
  

  Yes, your tone should not be tolerated by me or anyone else for that matter. Perhaps you can convince Simon to change the wording on the welcome page to better suit you.
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  Why do girls have a hymen?

  by JWchange in

  1. social
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  if you believe humans evolved, and were not created, why would having a hymen help, especially as no other mammal has one?

  if you believe humans were created by {a} god, or intelligent beings with advanced technology, what was the reason for a hymen?

  i'm interested to hear your thoughts on this unusual subject, not many people talk about..

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  @ nicolaou and OEJ - it's one thing to bring up valid points and make an argument. It's another matter entirely to belittle and more or less insult someone's post in a condescending way merely because they disagree with you.

  @ cofty - contrast the way you responded to me with how you initially responded to Rattigan. Notice a difference? Yes, you were being considerably more respectful with the exception of "moaning". And yes, I'm actually very interested in learning how life originated. Not trying to be clever cofty, just a sincere interest to learn more and more. Thank you. I will definitely check out the book you recommended. I'm always open to suggestions. I'm not closed minded at all.

  Let's take a closer look at your reply to Rattigan to see if I'm exaggerating:

  How much time and effort have you put into finding an answer to your question?
  

  Clearly you are talking down to Rattigan here.

  If it is the hymen that makes you doubt evolution why didn't you bother to read the answer above?
  

  Here you are taking an authoritative tone reprimanding Rattigan like a superior talking to an employee for his lack of action to your liking

  .Evolution is a fact. Get over it.

  Authoritative tone like a parent speaking to a child. Leaving no room for discussion

  Reality takes priority.
  

  Simply speaking, you are telling Rattigan his belief in Creationism is stupid and idiotic.
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  Why do girls have a hymen?

  by JWchange in

  1. social
  2. family

  if you believe humans evolved, and were not created, why would having a hymen help, especially as no other mammal has one?

  if you believe humans were created by {a} god, or intelligent beings with advanced technology, what was the reason for a hymen?

  i'm interested to hear your thoughts on this unusual subject, not many people talk about..

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  Cofty, is there some particular reason for your hostility to someone's opinion? So suddenly you are the board expert on evolution and anyone who contests it is wrong? When were you published? In what academic journal can I find it so I can learn more about evolution?
  

  Why the need to be condescending with people who wish to engage in a friendly discussion?
  

  Professor Cofty, where did the first living cell come from? How did it originate?
  
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  Privacy

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i need some advice guys.

  how do you get people to mind their own buiseness without coming off as rude?.

  i was invited to a jw gathering last night.

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  If they weren't my elders, I would have told them to mind their business.
  

  This is the reason they feel they have free reign in questioning anyone with anything.

  I would have told them you weren't comfortable with the line of questioning and ended it there.

  These people are nuts as it is and they may be digging for info and dirt on you.

  I'm still and active member and brothers know better than to try that crap on me. I've made my position clear. Steer clear! Elders, Circuit Overseer, or anyone else for that matter.