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  Upset and Concerned!

  by The Bethelite in

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  i'm very worried.

  i just took out two slices of dave's killer bread out of the bag this morning, to make some toast.

  i bought the bread almost 2 weeks ago.

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  It seems that Dave sold out for $275 million to Flower Foods.

  I hope him selling it to them included the clause to keep all original organic ingredients.

  Then again, money talks.
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  Step right up and get while they've yet to flee like the vermin they are

  by Tenacious in

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  2. child-abuse

  the gb members are finally going to be named as individual defendants in child abuse cases.. read more about it here: reap it you vermin!.

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  The GB members are finally going to be named as individual defendants in child abuse cases.

  Read more about it here: Reap it you vermin!
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  I would highly suggest the book The Gentile Times Reconsidered by Carl Olof Jonson.

  Here is a link to the PDF version: The Gentile Times Reconsidered

  Olof's book completely and comprehensively demolishes the WT findings with solid indisputable facts.

  This former friend went back and forth corresponding with the WTS proving point by point until they told him to keep his research to himself and not to spread it.

  The WTS knew they had been proven wrong. Thank you Mr. Jonson!
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  Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

  i’m talking over the last few decades..

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  Isn't it interesting how 'FOX and Friends' 'The Five' and other pro-Trump FOX supporters suddenly halted their attacks on minorities and their crossing the border ALL THIS WEEK right after the El Paso shooting? Not a peep of mentioned on border crossing or illegals or anything about immigration. Ah, how suddenly they get caught with their pants down and wish to pull them up while no one is watching. Hahaha

  Yet they have the nerve to defend Trump and how Trump is all about unity blah, blah, blah. Seriously? Trump has been all about kicking the illegals out of the country. There are many people who come from other places as well that are also illegals and also stay and break the immigration laws not just south of the border.

  The orange orangutan suddenly also stopped railing against the minorities and border crossings right after this shooting.

  Coincidence?

  No, because now everyone wants to feel sympathy for the minorities who were slain.

  I like Trump for his handling of trade and the economy and how he's trying to keep criminals out of our country but I will not support him generalizing and lumping all immigrants as being violent offenders.
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  November 2019 Watchtower - My highlights

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  'the watchtower november 2019 study articles quoted below can be summed up as follows:.

  the great tribulation is near, so become more entrenched in the cult by strengthening friendships with other jw's, by revealing your thoughts to them, by doing more for the org, and by refusing to listen to any upsetting reports about the org in the media or on the internet.. par.

  19, page 7 - we must be determined to build and maintain strong relationships with our brothers and sisters now.

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  Bahaha, their little empire is sinking and they are trying to plug the holes with toilet paper.

  What's the matter governing maggots too many bad news coming out? Too much dirty laundry being aired?

  Reap it you vermin. Reap it!!! Bahahaha!!!! Love it!!!!

  On a side note, Simon needs to get rid of this parasite user who's posting like there's no tomorrow user fredrick mukiti. Paging Simon, paging Simon. LOL!!
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  HOW MUCH OF THIS IS BELIEVABLE

  by Hairtrigger in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/ossuary-james-0012181.

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  Isn't it interesting that ancient writers are discredited by those that don't like what they have to say?

  It seems that Jesus was indeed a historical figure as History shows it.

  P.S. Simon, please remove user Fredrick Mikiti on this thread. He's a scammer. Grazie
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  Godlike ones vs. the godlike ones?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  nwt: psalm 8:5 * hebrew: 2:7: “you made him a little lower than angels.” if men are called "godlike ones", according to jehovah's witnesses, how, then, are they a little lower than the angels also called the "godlike ones"psalm 82:6 “i myself have said, ‘you are gods*, and all of you are sons of the most high.

  *or, “godlike ones.” heb., ʼelo·him′; gr., the·oi′; syr., daʼ·la·hin; lat., di′i; t, “like angels.”****nowhere in the hebrew bible are human beings referred to the word "elohim".

  "godlike" in hebrew is termed "כמו אלוהים"

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  This argument is a favorite used by JW's to try and reduce Jesus to a mere angel.

  Not long ago I had a back-and-forth with a JW on YT about this.

  It's sad but they are spitting on their Savior all over again.
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  The beauty in being mortal

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am only speaking from my personal point of view and not to encroach on anyone else's belief system:.

  one of the main points of attraction to the jw life was the 'panda paradise', once i woke up, i began to think about the future and it made me realize that jw's have little or no regard for life and the way they treat others even in those who are jw's.. e.g.

  no blood, shunning, theocratic warfare, no real charity work for those in need, etc.... if we live forever on earth we would get bored, we would take relationships for granted and possible want to actually die.. what makes anything valuable is the not the beauty of it but the rarity of it or the limited amount of it.. time is not only limited but all of our hourglasses are opaque leaving the amount of sand remaining a guess at best, and this is what moves us to appreciate life and ever little thing it gives us.. there is a beautiful and poignant song by jason isbell 'if we were vampires' and it perfectly describes the beauty one can find in ones mortality and how it moves us to love & care deeper than if we were immortal.. the 2nd verse goes .

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  I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the only thing that will die will be your body.

  You, as we recognize ourselves, are made out of pure energy.

  Energy packets that pop in and out of existence in a vibration of sorts.

  Everything even the sofa I'm sitting on right now is basically energy that our minds can tune into and form them in my case, as a sofa.

  Your consciousness will live on brother. Where it goes is up for debate depending on your beliefs.

  But energy can neither be destroyed nor created.
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  JW Broadcast For August

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay i'll admit that what i'm about to ask is a little silly.

  this is the kind of stuff that crosses over into tinfoil hat territory, but you can't help but notice it.. did anyone else see gary breaux in this month's broadcast doing that weird "hand diamond" thing over his bible?

  he was also wearing a pinky ring.

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  I know for a fact that Gary Breaux did this same thing. It's not a coincidence.

  Yeah, that is one of things that caught my attention when I saw some of the first JW broadcasts.

  The weird way they positioned their hands over the bible.
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  The Lords prayer ;Our Father prayer...."Let your name be sanctified " from Jesus.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to mathew 6:9 jesus instructed his followers in, vs. 9 " you must pray, then this way "our father in the heavens,let your name be sanctified ..... which rank & file jehovah`s witnesses have been led to believe for the past 140 or so years is to make a personal name of god namely jehovah known to all of the world ,because as they have so loudly professed christendom has kept that name away from the general public.. not true ,raymundus martinus a spanish catholic monk of the 13th-14th century first coined that name for god and it has been used in and on churches throughout christendom in the world ever since.. true christendoms emphasis has been on witnessing about jesus christ which is what the new testament is all about,not jehovah god, but jesus christ .

  phillipians 2 :9-11. in the new testament ,( cgs ) jesus christ is never recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. " " none of the apostles are ever recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. " " none of his disciples are ever recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. the new testament ,christian greek scriptures are all about bearing witness about jesus christ and after his time of bringing back people under his kingdom will he turn then it back over to his father, a thousand years when his rule is finished.. that is the message of the"kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" published by the wtb&ts ,says..

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  If God the Father wanted His name to be exalted He could have easily preserved it just like He did with THE ENTIRE BIBLE. It would be stupid to say God had the ability to preserve His Son's name just not His. But the JW false argument and those that agree with the exalting of the Father's name is the reason why He did it. The whole Bible is about His Son not Him. It would be even STUPIDER to think the Father needs to hear His name to make sure you are praying to Him. How comical is that?

  So what did Jesus mean when he said YOUR NAME BE SANCTIFIED?

  It meant for His name to remain pure and clean or spotless. So how was this to be accomplished?

  By people obeying His Son! His Son came in His Father's name! Because Jesus came in the name that His Father gave Him which literally translates "God is Savior or God saves."

  When the Vice President visits another country they come representing (i.e. the U.S.A. i.e. the President) his boss the President and all that he stands for which is the country as a whole. Disobeying or attacking the VP would be the same as doing it to the one who he represents. So when Jesus came to earth He came in His own name but representing His Father and all He stood for. That is what is meant by coming in "the name" of His Father! Otherwise, would Philippians 2:9 make sense about the name of Jesus?

  Moreover, the name Jah is not a shortened version of jehovah. It is the first three letters (no "J" back then but you get the point) of God the Father's proper first name which is Jahweh. Even the GB admits to sticking to "tradition" about the proper name of God the Father instead of reverting to His real name which is Jahweh not jehovah. So much for caring about using God's real name. But they stick to "jehovah" because that is the Masonic version for the devils name. The name jehovah is used by satanists when worshiping the devil.

  When a person says "Hallelujah" they are in essence saying "Praise be to God" but in reality they are saying "Praise be to Jah" for HalleluJAH.