Posts by Tenacious

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17 year old son is blaming me for ruining his life from the Cult. He's complaining "I could have been a high school sports star!"

by PhilsWager2 in

you know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.

she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.

he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.

Tenacious

You really can't blame the kid for being angry. But please remind him that he has his whole life ahead of him and that statistically speaking he would have never gone pro unless he was almost superhuman all through high school and college (sad, but true).

I blamed mom for about 1 day then got over it and went on with my life and family of course.

One thing to keep in mind though, and for anyone else who will find themselves in the same position of facing angry children; it is our responsibility as parents to thoroughly investigate any organization prior to joining it and dragging them along.

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Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

by FusionTheism in

the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

Tenacious

I'm sure # 6 will be very popular.

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A big hello and thank you

by iwasblind in

i just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).

i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.

my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.

Tenacious

Hello IWB,

I'm personally happy for your awakening. It's sickening when you see so many love ones who have become walking drones of the GB. I'm still in but mentally out. I make it to a meeting here and there mostly to appease my family. I hope to one day break free completely with entire family. It's not going to be easy but I can see it happening with the concerted effort I've put in so far. It's hard to sit through talks riddled with so many lies that is aimed at keeping everyone in submission to the WTS.

Welcome and please continue healing emotionally. Many good people on this board and many are willing to listen at anytime without criticism.

I wish you and your wife the very best.

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Hello, just introducing myself

by Miss Behaving in

jw
friends

i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.

here's my story if you're interested:.

my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.

Tenacious

I'm sorry you had to experience all of this. Having parents themselves reject you or view you as a problem is a testament to the power of subtle mind control the WT has over so many members. You are incredibly brave Miss Behaving. Don't give up and continue looking ahead. If you still believe in God, pray your heart out and ask for guidance. Remember that the WT merely uses Jehovah God in furtherance of their unethical treatment of their members. They are scum and deserve every verdict that goes against them. You reap what you sow, and I can only hope the WT dies a slow death.

There are some very good people on this board that are always ready to help you. Take it slow and know that many of us here will be here when you are ready to continue your journey out of this mental enslavement.

Take very good care of yourself.

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Laughable - If it Wasn't So Hypocritical & Pathetic

by The Searcher in

"we do not believe that.....those who take the lead in religious activities should have titles that elevate them above others.

" (stated on the jw.borg site!).

what about governing body member, faithful & discreet slave, branch overseer, .

Tenacious

"We do not believe that.....those who take the lead in religious activities should have titles that elevate them above others."

Please welcome Governing Body member Gerrit Losch to the platform.

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Something tells me 1914...

by Monsieur in

after todays watchtower lesson, and the lessons coming, something tells me bigger and bigger new understandings are coming.

and that it will culminate with 1914. notice how jesus is now coming, and no longer already here.

the current understanding is both, he is here and hes also coming.

Tenacious

I believe you are right. Although this weekend's talk centered around the 1914 date and how the WT reaches it, all signs point to an overhaul of long held beliefs. This concurs with the type/anti-type reviews done lately.

The new bible also notes 1914 as being an "about" date not an exact date.

Funny thing is the flock will continue without batting an eye. Makes me sick inside.

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Prayer During District Assemblies

by Tenacious in

there's something that i've always wondered about yet could never truly understand.

does anyone know why during district assemblies a prayer is done during the last day after coming back from lunch?.

i can't quite remember if it's done other days but i believe this is done on the last day.

Tenacious

Thanks for the replies.

I just always found it very odd that brothers continue standing after the lunch song waiting to be instructed to sit down. Any normal person would just sit down and get ready to listen.

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Prayer During District Assemblies

by Tenacious in

there's something that i've always wondered about yet could never truly understand.

does anyone know why during district assemblies a prayer is done during the last day after coming back from lunch?.

i can't quite remember if it's done other days but i believe this is done on the last day.

Tenacious

There's something that I've always wondered about yet could never truly understand.

Does anyone know why during district assemblies a prayer is done during the last day after coming back from lunch?

I can't quite remember if it's done other days but I believe this is done on the last day.

I know that many brothers will usually continue standing after the song after lunch on all three days until they are asked to sit down.

Can anyone shed some light on this practice?

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Need advice on a comeback to my wife: when she is in cult mode she says faith without works is dead.

by goingthruthemotions in

so i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.

now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.

try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).

Tenacious

I didn't go through the comments but hope you received your answer by now. If not, point her to Galatians and Romans where Paul explains it. James was referring to demonstrating you had faith in the sense that you live like a Christian and not practice sinful ways. Otherwise that would pit Paul against James.

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The Money-Grab BOEs!

by Atlantis in

these are the money-grab letters several people have been asking for.

i almost hate to post these after all the hard work "searcher" did on the other thread.

his version looks almost better than these.

Tenacious

I thank you as well Atlantis. And I strongly second what The Searcher said in you and your sources taking risks so that everyone can see what's really going on behind the Iron curtain.