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  Please Help with Public Talk Outlines

  by Tenacious in

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  2. bible

  does anyone know where i can find and download the four volumes containing the public talk outlines?.

  i tried searching the forum but all links found are dead.

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  Thanks wifi!
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  Please Help with Public Talk Outlines

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
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  does anyone know where i can find and download the four volumes containing the public talk outlines?.

  i tried searching the forum but all links found are dead.

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  Tenacious

  Does anyone know where I can find and download the four volumes containing the public talk outlines?

  I tried searching the forum but all links found are dead.

  Thanks!
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  To My JW Brothers and Sisters

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to all brothers and sisters reading this site: "and i love you so" (remember the don mclean song?

  )...is the feeling most of us had with regard to the watchtower and the brothers leading it.

  but truly, who did we get baptized for?

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  I don't have time to be obsessing over what the GB is doing.
  

  Soooo, I'm guessing you don't listen to them? As in the publications?
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  Strange but Sad!

  by John Aquila in

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  2. experiences

  i had a couple of elders come visit me about an hour ago.

  they wanted to inform me that a brother who was well known throughout the circuit had died.

  (i actually knew about it but did not go to the funeral) he was about to hit 90 years old, missed it by a few weeks.

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  This goes to show how deeply ingrained the WTS has embedded their propaganda into the minds of their members.

  I am not excusing the elders for their obvious inconsiderate and inhumane treatment of the daughter but this is what they have been taught (from infancy sometimes).

  Fear is prevalent in an organization that claims its a brotherly paradise.
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  Fresno man facing murder charge after shooting a Jehovah’s Witness who refused blood transfusion

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a jehovahs witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.. according to police, quevedo and silva argued over over gang membership with quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot silva through the security door at his home.. silva reportedly told a fresno police officer jehovah, jehovah, im dying, im dying, as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a jehovahs witness.. it is the belief of many jehovahs witnesses that it is against gods will to have a blood transfusion.. according to defense attorney antonio alvarez, quevedo should not have been charged with murder because silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.. prosecutor gabriel brickey disagrees and will call fresno county pathologist michael chambliss to testify that, even if silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.. quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting silva.. if convicted of murder he would face life in prison.. original story with suspect picture can be found here: fresno shooting.

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  Although this brother was obviously on the fringe of the org. I can help but pray for him and his family. He died perhaps not even knowing the full story on why the org. banned transfusions.

  Another young life taken in order to satisfy the lust for power of those imbecile maggots in NY.
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  To My JW Brothers and Sisters

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to all brothers and sisters reading this site: "and i love you so" (remember the don mclean song?

  )...is the feeling most of us had with regard to the watchtower and the brothers leading it.

  but truly, who did we get baptized for?

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  I don't know Frank, history has been against the FDS from the beginning. All starting with Russell being a Mason down to our time with Losch pushing child baptism. We are talking over 130 years of contradictions and failed prophecies.

  The growth seen is based on the harsh physiological conditioning of members for generations over.

  The FDS/GB/WTS and whatever else they can be called seem to have never had God's blessing.

  For a second, say we do stand up as a group and speak out. The only result would be an expedited exit from the WTS with pink slip in hand. The GB do not take orders or even consider rational discussions (see CoC R. Franz) they are as arrogant as any of those Wall Street Bankers.

  I think at this point in the game, all we can do is pray that God brings the change those sincere brothers and sisters are looking for and have for many, many decades.
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  The Greatest Teacher

  by Harold OMorning in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if jesus was really viewed as the greatest teacher who ever lived...........why would a 3rd party need to explain his teaching?

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  Scripture is clear. There's only ONE mediator between men and God and that's Jesus.

  The FDS has taken the role of Christ by force.

  All things point to God having enough of it which is why we see so much recklessness in the org. right now plus all the pedo suits coming to light. God has clearly given his back to the WTS.

  Now, suddenly they want to make a convention about the Christ when they have all but ignored Him.
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  Fresno man facing murder charge after shooting a Jehovah’s Witness who refused blood transfusion

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a jehovahs witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.. according to police, quevedo and silva argued over over gang membership with quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot silva through the security door at his home.. silva reportedly told a fresno police officer jehovah, jehovah, im dying, im dying, as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a jehovahs witness.. it is the belief of many jehovahs witnesses that it is against gods will to have a blood transfusion.. according to defense attorney antonio alvarez, quevedo should not have been charged with murder because silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.. prosecutor gabriel brickey disagrees and will call fresno county pathologist michael chambliss to testify that, even if silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.. quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting silva.. if convicted of murder he would face life in prison.. original story with suspect picture can be found here: fresno shooting.

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  A Fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a Jehovah’s Witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.

  According to police, Quevedo and Silva argued over over gang membership with Quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot Silva through the security door at his home.

  Silva reportedly told a Fresno police officer “Jehovah, Jehovah, I’m dying, I’m dying,” as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a Jehovah’s Witness.
  

  It is the belief of many Jehovah’s Witnesses that it is against God’s will to have a blood transfusion.

  According to defense attorney Antonio Alvarez, Quevedo should not have been charged with murder because Silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.

  Prosecutor Gabriel Brickey disagrees and will call Fresno County pathologist Michael Chambliss to testify that, even if Silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.

  Quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting Silva.

  If convicted of murder he would face life in prison.

  Original story with suspect picture can be found here: Fresno shooting
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  RC 2015 Book "Jesus—The Way, the Truth, the Life"

  by wifibandit in

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  2. bible

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jesus/.

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  non jw download - all formats & audio.

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  I think it finally dawn on them that the bible was describing them all along (anti-Christ).

  
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  17 year old son is blaming me for ruining his life from the Cult. He's complaining "I could have been a high school sports star!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.

  she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.

  he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.

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  You really can't blame the kid for being angry. But please remind him that he has his whole life ahead of him and that statistically speaking he would have never gone pro unless he was almost superhuman all through high school and college (sad, but true).

  I blamed mom for about 1 day then got over it and went on with my life and family of course.

  One thing to keep in mind though, and for anyone else who will find themselves in the same position of facing angry children; it is our responsibility as parents to thoroughly investigate any organization prior to joining it and dragging them along.