i don't believe for a second that the wts can be god's chosen organization, if he does have an earthly one, especially one with such a hypocritical past.
but the question begs; why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the wts?.
does anyone know or have heard of other denominations having the genuine heavenly calling?.
@ OTWO - that is a very striking and thought provoking list. Thank you.
I have always had a problem seeing how such a loving God could annihilate babies and yet Jesus condemned violence. Did he have his reasons? Probably so. But this human has a hard time accepting them.
i don't believe for a second that the wts can be god's chosen organization, if he does have an earthly one, especially one with such a hypocritical past.
but the question begs; why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the wts?.
does anyone know or have heard of other denominations having the genuine heavenly calling?.
We were treated pretty badly by others in the KH.
Yep, that sounds about right. If her partaking did not fit in with the current WTS narrative I can definitely see this.
I'm sorry you had to experience this. These maggots think they have the right to dictate someone else's spirituality.
I haven't really had anyone answer with any real substance to my question. I find it very striking that these people would "feel" the need to partake. And they happen to be JW's.
on page 9, paragraph 7:.
neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness, even if he asks what to do.
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It's the same old story about the not requiring anyone to do anything yet disobeying their non-biblical edicts have consequences.
And of course the evil, evil universities and their incredible power to lure people away from slavery *cough, I mean God.
i don't believe for a second that the wts can be god's chosen organization, if he does have an earthly one, especially one with such a hypocritical past.
but the question begs; why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the wts?.
does anyone know or have heard of other denominations having the genuine heavenly calling?.
I just find it odd that out of the 8 million + that attended the memorial almost 14,000 of these would take a sip and a bite.
Mildly meditating can only do so much for a person. Deep meditation can certainly bring about an almost euphoric peaceful state.
Speaking in tongues and yet teaching biblical falsities is not from God so I would rule the Pentis out.
That still leaves the 14k and counting.
they just posted the simplified august study watchtower on jw.org.. paragraph 11 of the "expectation!
" article says this:.
"so even if we feel that we have been waiting a long time, this does not mean that the end is far away or that it is not coming in our lifetime.".
Self-preservation.
The WTS has been using the "death at Armageddon" card since its inception.
Think about it. What's more important to a human being than preserving their own life?
Sprinkle some biblical truths on top of that and you have blind acceptance to do with the person as you wish.
Not too long ago I overheard an elder tell a teen in our hall that he wouldn't see high school. The teen made the mistake of telling the elder he wanted to be an engineer. The first chance I got I pulled that kid aside and told him that no one knows when the end will come and that choosing to attend a university is his and his decision alone. The kid agreed and later on I heard his parents did too.
i know this has been discussed, but i think it's good that topics like this get brought back up from time to time for the sake of newbies and lurkers, plus, i have a question (related at end of post).. the org brags about "forgiving" kh mortgages as if it's so loving and giving.
i put the word in quotation marks because most of us realize it wasn't forgiving anything.
the new arrangement should actually bring it far more money.. for example, suppose there are twenty congregations total.
When I first heard it I personally thought it to be a blessing for those with outstanding mortgages. Then when I heard the last part of implementing an open ended mortgage payment I thought twice and didn't agree with it.
After giving it some serious thought, I figured out it was a calculated well thought out move by the org knowing they would come into some serious dough. They knew how many outstanding mortgages there was and probably how much money congregations had in their savings. In the end, they knew approximately how much they would gain, especially with the open-ended note.
They, as in the GB, are stupid men who wouldn't know business even if a stock option certificate was shoved up their ass, instead they rely on shrewd business consultants to steer the org's finances in the best way possible.
i don't believe for a second that the wts can be god's chosen organization, if he does have an earthly one, especially one with such a hypocritical past.
but the question begs; why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the wts?.
does anyone know or have heard of other denominations having the genuine heavenly calling?.
I don't believe for a second that the WTS can be God's chosen organization, if he does have an earthly one, especially one with such a hypocritical past. But the question begs; why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the WTS?
Does anyone know or have heard of other denominations having the genuine heavenly calling?
I have heard that the heavenly calling is an "intense and overwhelming feeling of wanting to be with God and not on earth".
the governing body of the watchtower is not as immune as they might think..
anything can happen at any time to any organization no matter how big, how powerful, how religious or how long they been involved in wrongdoing.. .
fifa, the powerful and polarizing governing body for soccer, came under prosecutorial assault from two fronts wednesday.
Oh, how I wish it was the other governing body.
I believe it will come to pass sooner rather than later.
dear lurking jw's:.
if you were in a cult, how would you know?
cults don't call themselves cults.
Very good list cappytan.
Great work.
i was discussing this topic with two friends of mine, ex jws, a few nights ago.
i think it would be boring after a while.
you can't smoke, have to drink with moderation (difficult in europe with all the wines).
With all due respect I think your view is being bias with the current world situation.
While I don't know what its like to be perfect, we did get a glimpse when Jesus roamed the earth.
The Universe itself would in fact take millions if not billions of years to travel and visit throughout.
There are so many things on earth that we would have time to do to research and enjoy.
Think about the power it takes to create the Universe. Wouldn't God the creator know how to please his creation and keep them in expectation for an eternity?
Of course, IMHO.
