i've always found it amazing that people can say with such conviction that jehovah is their friend.. we are talking about a "friend" who perhaps daily "tests" us to see if we are his friends.
all of us have dealt with some form of hardship such as the death of a loved one, chronic illness or whatever.
it is in these cases that the brothers will tell a person that perhaps it is a test, or that "jehovah knows you're not ready" or some other lame excuse.. do our real friends "test" us to see if we will be loyal to them?
"One older single sister said "we need to more than love Jehovah we should be madly in love with him!" talk about a cringe worthy moment."
I would have b-slapped her (lightly due to age) and then grabbed her by both shoulders and looked into her eyes and said: "Get a grip!!" .....and then told her to have a good day with a big smile and walked away.
it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
I despise Witnesses who use this term or any form thereof, and any of their "special" language. But the motherlode of all the expressions they use that I despise the most is their anal retentive use of the name "Jehovah".
One thing that these imbeciles seem to lack is respect for the Father's name. How can Witnesses use THEIR Father's name so commonly? I would never use my Father's name to describe him, speak of him, or pray to him.
I used to cringe when I would congratulate someone and they would come back with "Thanks to Jehovah."
For some reason I never felt too comfortable just using this name they way the majority of Witnesses used it so arbitrarily and freely. Common sense is just not something Witnesses are used to using.
okay so here goes...this is my first time on here.
i'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless.
i was dfed in september and i am still wrapping my head around everything.
Hello BT,
I'm sorry to hear you have been DF'd from the Org.
Your feelings of despair have been experienced by thousands of members on this board.
Sadly, the Org cares more about it's image than of a member's feeling on being DF'd and the harm that stems from having to lose perhaps 90% of your social circle not including any relatives that may also turn their back on you.
Whatever it is you may or may not have done the bible is clear in regards to judging one another in John 12:47-50. Christ could not have been any clearer:
47 - "But if anyone hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I came, not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 - Whoever disregards me and does not receive my sayings has one to judge him. The word that I have spoken is what will judge him on the last day. 49 - For I have not spoken of my own initiative, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak. 50 - And I know that his commandment means everlasting life. So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me.”
Note the quotation from the NWT.
well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.
thank you all for the encouraging replies.
one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.
so we had brother losch visiting our special assembly day which was weird in itself.
he's not a very good speaker and seemed like he was in dire need of a nap or something.. anyways just a few observations from the assembly program.
theme: imitate their faith.
I was enthralled with "his sincerity", talking about a splitter group from Romania and they were cut off from the Org in 1950 when the Soviet Union took over. Then when the Soviet Union collapsed and communication was re-established, these Brothers did not accept the changes to the Org (he mentioned smoking being a big issue). "It took a week of long nightly discussions and prayers" but "I always addressed them as Brothers", "Then me and another Brother with me were able to convince 3 of the 4 prominent Brothers in charge, representing some 75% percent of the publishers,(some 5000 people) to come back to the Organization. "
I remember this splinter group in Romania. I believe it was Dan Sydlik who was also there that helped convince those people to come back to the Org. This actually was featured in a magazine some years ago I remember reading it. Back then I had some doubts but very minimal doubts and thought to myself "Wow! These people were certainly saved from dying!" I think back now and just sigh.
i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.
it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.
its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.
Holy freaking hell, they are pimping me out. There’s a lot of other hilarious stuff that happened and I have to say it is quite a tempting lure to pull me back to the kingdom hall, but I think I will pass. (The picture of the long legs of the 30 year old really got to me) Now I know why Israel fell to Moab right before the promise land.
I nearly fell off the chair with this one.
while attending a week long training class for elders in patterson, bro losch gave the concluding talk about loyalty to the borg, which i was in awe of(i went more in detail in a recent post about a s.a.d.
where losch was the speaker).
at the end of his talk, here's what he said: .
An Elder sitting next to me from Alabama said: "that driver is in the wrong and needs to be counseled! I am going to write a letter to the Branch about this driver and his lack of respect toward members of the Governing Body"!
You should have told this elder to be sure to include in his letter a guidance request on how best to remove Bro Losch's schlong from his anal cavity with the least pain possible.
this is my first post here (not being comments) but i still have to tell my story but for that i need to get my mind together in other to give as much detail as possible to be able to share it.
will do in a future post.. anyway i had to share this.. so i went out on service this morning (i never do i always end up excusing myself because i hate field service) reason i did was to see what the new c.o had to say and he sure did say something.
he was saying what we had to present and he went over the watchtower magazine.
The CO's like to think of themselves as religious executives who answer to the chairman.
It's not surprising that this moron would use an illustration like this. He should have just cut to the chase and told you guys to distract the householder while your partner covertly but discreetly flung the magazines into the home. I can almost see him saying: "Let those bitches fly!"
On a personal note, our recent visit had our CO saying he was disappointed in our lack of zeal for placing more magazines. There were just too many magazines left over!! In my mind I was thinking yeah, people already have enough bullsh** I don't think they need any more.
lets pretend two things:.
1. god (yhwh) exists.
2. the bible is his word.. now we follow genesis to judges ok... judges resets at chaper 17-21 but for the purposes od this posts lets ignore that.... ruth we are told lives in the time of the judges... ok no problem/ until the end.
it's up to some 800 zillion dollars now and hasn't suckered me in yet.
i've been out of watchtower for some 38 years now and i suppose the lottery is one of their nonoze.
i have nothing morally wrong against it or anyone who enjoys doing it.
I bought 10 tickets on a whim.
I'll keep all of you guys in mind if I win......well maybe not cofty or Viviane but definitely everyone else.
Just kidding cofty/Viviane.
