then raise questions that they cannot easily answer, or that causes them to think.
I can agree to that..............But what are some of the "Simple" questions? I'm not good at quoting Bible scriptures back and forth.
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How to wake up and reverse the trance???
by J-DUBBED inhow do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
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How to wake up and reverse the trance???
by J-DUBBED inhow do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
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Yeah, thanks................Doc. You're a big influence. I'll keep that in mind.
Unlike many that have been able to help me with this life changing experience.....
Maybe you should STFU if you've got nothing contribute to my problem. I guess that's what happens when you're latched onto by a J-Dub Wifey........You may have a bigger problem than me.
It can't get much worse. It's like he's been dead for four years.
JDUB, you don't even have a glimmer of hope until you get this all figured out, but I suspect you will f*** it all up before then.
You had best STFU and quit being controversial
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How to wake up and reverse the trance???
by J-DUBBED inhow do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
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Could this be asked to him? Safely? Or worded different?
Also, it is interesting that, whilst most JWs criticize celebrating birthdays, they have no trouble celebrating wedding anniversaries which are simply "birthdays" of the wedding day.
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How to wake up and reverse the trance???
by J-DUBBED inhow do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
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just learn and practice as much as you can about empowering his authentic persona to critically think for himself and what to say to reach his authentic persona and how to turn-off his cult persona
What would some of those questions be? I don't have bible scriptures in my head to refer to. Even though I was brought up a Roman Catholic, I do not "Study" the bible. I do not even go to church anymore other than basically for weddings or funerals. In our last conversation with our son, he wanted to show us scriptures in the Bible that are the same as any ones Bible. I said I wasn't interested as I don't live my life by what some one wrote in a Bible. He thinks he's going to come back after death and live in a beautiful world. I said to him do you really believe like they print on their pamphlets, that you're coming back to bounce balls off elephants and pet tigers? He basically said yes that's the way it is. He said his father in law actually cured all his problems by sitting down with him and going through the Bibles. His father in law even apparently did some "Marriage" counciling for him and his new wife to help fix their "Love Life".
This is so wacked out that it's hard to keep control of emotions.
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How to wake up and reverse the trance???
by J-DUBBED inhow do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
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Would it help and/or be advisable to forward our son some of these video links from Freedom Of Mind site? Or would it be ignored or make things worse? -
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Are we going to see a mass awakening?
by kairos inthe internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.
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I have s l o w l y shared my reasons with my other friend and she is on her own way out.
Sure would like to see those reasons. I never was a J-Dub so I don't know the tricks.
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Are we going to see a mass awakening?
by kairos inthe internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.
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How to wake up and reverse the trance???
by J-DUBBED inhow do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
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The biggie is he figures we should all get together(with his wife) and have supper or a coffee. We want nothing to do with his wife, she was the start of all the problem. -
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Well at least the poor girl victim was awarded 15 million dollars.
Why can't these guys be brought down and crumble. they believe they're above the Law.
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How to wake up and reverse the trance???
by J-DUBBED inhow do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
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Hi J-DUBBED, It sounds like your son's weakness is his daughter. Have you contacted your son's ex-girl friend and told her about cult-exit counselors such as Steve Hassan's methods for helping someone to critically think for themselves as well as not going off on tangents when feeling cognitive dissonance. At least send your grand-daughter's mother the following video by Steven Hassan so that she can help her daughter to critically think for herself: Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23) .
Best of wishes helping your family members.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
The problem is there are two Grandaughters. One four year old from the ex-gf and one two year old with his new bride. Just don't know how to approach him with these conversations. For a couple weeks talking to him was not a problem.......Because nothing was brought up about Religion or his wife.
I also can't open that link you posted.
