only some of the people of israel are truly god's people,and only some of abraham's desendants are the true children of abraham.
abraham's true children are those who become god's children because of the promise god made to abraham.
before the two boys were born, god told rebekah,"the older will serve the younger".
Of course this is just my understanding on the matter and I could be completely wrong, but wouldn't it be keeping with his justice if he let the whole human race stay under condemnation at the fall?
As I understand it Abraham was not ac worshipper of Jehovah but an Idolater when Jehovah imputed righteouness to him for no good reason except Jehovah wanted to. So now Abraham's faith would be the vehichcle God would use to impute righteousness to others.
only some of the people of israel are truly god's people,and only some of abraham's desendants are the true children of abraham.
abraham's true children are those who become god's children because of the promise god made to abraham.
before the two boys were born, god told rebekah,"the older will serve the younger".
My thoughts are God does what he wants to do with his creation and doesn't consult with anyone before he does it. That's why WE give him the title ALMIGHTY GOD. He does not conform to our sense of fairness.
At the fall of Adam the whole human race was under God's condemnation.
He devised a plan to save some for his own glory and others he just simply lets them stay under the condemnation of the fall.
only some of the people of israel are truly god's people,and only some of abraham's desendants are the true children of abraham.
abraham's true children are those who become god's children because of the promise god made to abraham.
before the two boys were born, god told rebekah,"the older will serve the younger".
Only some of the people of Israel are truly God's people,and only some of Abraham's desendants are the true children of Abraham. Abraham's true children are those who become GOD'S children because of the promise GOD made to Abraham. Before the two boys were born, GOD told Rebekah,"The older will serve the younger". This was before the boys were born and had done nothing good or bad. God said this so that the one chosen would be chosen because of GOD's OWN PLAN. He was chosen simply because he was the one GOD wanted to call, NOT because of anything he did. As the scriptures says, "I loved Jacob, but I hated Esau". (Jacob cuold not unchoose himself no matter what he did or didn't do).
So what shall we say about this is GOD unfair?
Are we simply clay in the hands of the potter? Can a lepord change his spots?
comments please.
"... soul-chilling terror will spread through the masses... .
a flesh-eating plague will destroy many... eaten up will be .
the tongues of those who scoffed and laughed at the warning .
Yep this is the book the nice Watctower lady studied with me and my mom with when I was 7 or 8. My favorite picture tho was of the fox Adam had. I think thats when I first started liking women with long hair. I remember dreaming about making it into paradise and having a
beautiful wife like Eve. I still see her picture in my minds eye.
to help choose the right religion for yourself answer 20 questions at the web site below and it will rank the best religions for you.. for myself jw was #6 just under sda and just before mormans.
i guess i am still brainwashed.
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mainline conservative 100%
Latter Day Saints 69%
Jehovah's Witness 60%
i remember the all the gravel roads in mississippi where i grew up then someone dicovered asphalt and things changed.i remember my mississippi back woods country jw grandmother saying, "they will never.
make it to the moon, if jehovah would have wanted man on the moon he would have put him there....they will never make it!".
i also remember my grandmother speaking so negativley about the "high and mighty" government" but 1975 was coming!
I remember the all the gravel roads in Mississippi where I grew up then someone dicovered asphalt and things changed.I remember my Mississippi back woods country JW grandmother saying, "They will never
make it to the moon, if Jehovah would have wanted man on the moon he would have put him there....they will never make it!". I also remember my grandmother speaking so negativley about the "high and mighty" government" but 1975 was coming! I believed her. I quit school
in 1974,got my girlfriend to start going to the Kingdom Hall with me,got married by my uncle who was an elder and then we both were baptized in the summer of 75 at the "Divine Victory" assembly at LSU
just before the big A was gonna hit in the fall of 75.10 years later I
found myself in a very deep depression.The elders made me clean house
because my depression they felt was being brought on by demons that I had let in my house with something of the world I had bought.One elder came over and helped me fill the garbage cans.I was told to draw
closer to Jehovah so I emersed myself in study of the scriptures.I discovered a very tender hearted merciful and kind God. I became a partaker. The elders blew a fuse and said I was not old enough.One said I was no more annoited ,"than any man walking down the street",
another said I was just plain ole "wicked". My wife too blew a fuse and said now everyone will think im weired. Yes discovery leads to change. I've been single now for 16 years, and yes I still feel very
close to my Heavenly Father and draw much encouragement from the scriptures.
"I will never leave you or forsake you"
yes the sun revolves around the earth....it moves from east to west.. this is why galileo a 15th century noted inventor, astronomer and mathmetical genius was excumminicated by the catholic church.
the scriptures state that joshua commanded the sun to stand still!
if the sun doesn't revolve around the earth then this command would be really stupid!.
Thank you everyone for your input. The obsevation I have made is when you try to put God in a monopoly box....he just steps out.The scribes
and pharisees had a big problem with this and resorted to nails and a hammer to try to solve the problem.
anybody seen this ron howard film yet?
i think it is the best movie i have seen in a very long time.
highly reccomended.
This was a beautiful movie. This movie is a hallmark for NOT GIVING UP! Love is the only thing that can get us through anything.Fortunately for Mr. Crowe....he was surrounded by emotionally
intelligent people of higher learning.One of a lesser status in life would probably still be wrapped in straight jacket in a dark dungen somewhere.
yes the sun revolves around the earth....it moves from east to west.. this is why galileo a 15th century noted inventor, astronomer and mathmetical genius was excumminicated by the catholic church.
the scriptures state that joshua commanded the sun to stand still!
if the sun doesn't revolve around the earth then this command would be really stupid!.
reckless,
You do not communicate with 1st graders the same way you would with a person who has a batchler of science degree...unless of course you yourself is a 1st grader.
the bible didn't change....just the understanding of it changed
the solar system didn't change....just the understanding of it changed.
When people become inflexible, closed minded and not open to the possibilty that their particular interpretation of events could be modified or even ratically altered....then they have become a victim
of thev fossilized "hardening of the ego".
We are dealing with a "Progressive" plan of God.
Earth is a school....what are you learning?
yes the sun revolves around the earth....it moves from east to west.. this is why galileo a 15th century noted inventor, astronomer and mathmetical genius was excumminicated by the catholic church.
the scriptures state that joshua commanded the sun to stand still!
if the sun doesn't revolve around the earth then this command would be really stupid!.
Yes the sun revolves around the earth....it moves from east to west.
This is why Galileo a 15th century noted inventor, astronomer and mathmetical genius was excumminicated by the catholic church. The scriptures state that Joshua commanded the sun to STAND STILL! If the sun doesn't revolve around the earth then this command would be really stupid!
Ahhh but what if the bible was written from the standpoint of the scientific knowledge the observer would have at that time? At that time scientific knowledge had not progressed to the telescopic point. Everyone in general believed the sun revolved around the earth. If Joshua would have commanded the earth to stand still then his aids would have probably totted him off to the ole deranged camel bin. It simply would not have made sense at that time.
Einstein's theory of relativity seems to have some value here.
SOME BIBLICAL TRUTH IS RELATIVE TO THE SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE KNOWN AT THE "TIME" OF EXPLANATION. Surely the catholic church would not excommunicate Galileo in this modern day and age.
The point is scientific discovery of what is true is accelerating making some long held biblical understanding obsolete and
irrelevant. Some who have been cast out as apostate's may turn out to
to be yet another Galileo.
