Posts by alamb

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Time again for........ Congregation roll call

by Jourles in

it's been a while since this topic has been brought up.

use it as a chance to see if there is someone you might know from years past.

1973-1976 --- lakeside, ca??

alamb

1968-1997 Utah (knew most everyone)

November 20, 1997 woke up and walked out (after 3 hours on the internet!)

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Somewhere past numb~

by alamb in

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friends

as a loyal jw, i was ready for my whole world to come to an earth-shattering halt and for life as i knew it to be gone...at the hand of my loving god.

i would sit in school in my mental bubble and numb myself to the world around me.

i grew older and entered the adult world and was aloof in my thoughts that i could not attach myself to any workmates or neighbors and put out my hand in friendship as they could be dead tomorrow and i would have to be ok with that.

alamb

Seeing so many new ones on the board, I feel the need to bring this up again and thank them for their presence. And thank you to all the old friend here too.

Happy Holidays to our online family!

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What Can You Say to Jehovah's Witnesses Lame Excuses ?

by flipper in

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friends

i noticed jg nat started a thread kind of similar, but dealing with elders .

my wife helped me come up with this thread with some good ideas here.

there are a few gems that witnesses use as excuses, phraseology they use to make excuses for their beliefs.

alamb

I have argued until I am blue in the face and deduced you cannot reason with unreasonable people.

NOW: I just grin. If they are talking to me, they have seedlings of doubt they want me to bring up so they can hear themselves argue against me/it/their own consciences. If I let it lie, it grows.

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My Councellor; Made a breakthrough. Am so happy

by shell69 in

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friends

hi friends,.

some of you may know of the year that i've had and my exit from the religion along with all the trauma that this brings.. i've been seeing my counselor for about 5 months now, and yesterday, during my session, her eyes filled up with tears, and she said, she feels i've made the breakthrough.. i was reading a thread a week or so ago, in this site and a book called toxic parents was recomended.

well i bought that book, and started to read.

alamb

I also read this book years ago. I read that either you "pass it back", or "pass it on". Then and there I made the phone call and passed it all back. Starting new. And I realized that I had to keep reading and reexamining the rest of my life to make sure that I had really moved on and was leaving the past in the past.

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local response to NBC news report

by Mulan in

my jw friend told me this from the meeting for service last week:.

one of the "sisters" told the group that she had spoken to (dave h*********) one of the bigwigs in this area, about the report.

he told her he had been to monroe prison, nearby, and asked about the pedophiles there and if any of them were jw's.

alamb

They're not in the prisons. They're sitting in the halls grinning.

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CHRISTMAS PRESENTS

by Dansk in

jw
friends

do you find it difficult to know what to get for your beloved for christmas?

(assuming you celebrate it!)..

my wife says to me "don't get me anything, i'd rather we saved the money to get away next year.".

alamb

I like the idea of buying an "experience" too. Memories are worth more than stuff. This year I would like a porchswing....weird, I know....but alot of memories could gather there.

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14 old JW boy dies refusing blood transfusion

by Philippus79 in

here is the link: .

http://www.cnn.com/2007/us/11/29/jehovahs.witness.ap/index.html .

(matthew 23:35-36) .

alamb

PLEASE PASS THIS ON!!! File this on behalf of your little ones NOW! Give it to hospitals, doctors, attorneys, states advocates...anyone! Attach a copy of your certified legal papers stating you have legal or joint legal custody of the minor. Speak for those who can't! The JW who has your child when an accident of situation arises WILL NOT call you! You may not have time to respond or get a court order then. A judge would feel safer backing you and the life of your child with this:

Date:___________________________________________________________

Name of Minor:___________________________________________________

Name(s) of Legal Custodian:_________________________________________

_________________________________________

I am a resident of the State of ____________, over the age of 18, and fully competent to make this statement.

I am a parent of the minor child, ___________________________.This minor is a resident of the state of _________.

It is my desire, in signing this document and making it available to you and your institution, to let it be know that I do not agree with and will not consent to the refusal of a blood transfusion or any similar, necessary medical treatment when it is deemed appropriate for the health of my child.The health and well-being of my child are of utmost importance to me and I respect the judgment of the medical community in this regard.

I am aware that this child may be in possession of a medical identity card distributed by Jehovah’s Witnesses.I am aware also, that the child’s mother/father may be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and conscientiously object to medical treatment involving blood and/or blood products for medical use involving this child due to religious reasons.My child is not a baptized member of Jehovah’s Witnesses and cannot fully understand the implications of taking a stand regarding a life threatening situation based on Biblical reasoning endorsed by another person.My child is also a minor and not legally capable or bound to a medical decision made on his own behalf.

I am not one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and do not endorse this stand.As a parent to this child, I will be willing to sign waivers regarding the overriding of this document, if needed.I will also be willing to state this before a judge, if the matter is remanded to a court regarding the rights of my child.

I am attaching a copy of a recently published essay, "Jehovah's Witnesses, Blood Transfusions, and the Tort of Misrepresentation," in the Autumn issue of Baylor University’s Journal of Church and State, December 13, 2005.Information given to the Jehovah’s Witness parent has been proven to be a misrepresentation of the facts regarding blood and it’s use and I cannot agree with any decision not made without all the facts regarding a life-saving treatment.

I wish to be contacted in the event of a medical emergency involving this child.This may be objected to by the child’s mother/father but I am a legally recognized parent to this child and this is the lawful course.If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

I can be reached at:

Address: _________________________________________________

Phone:

___________________(home)

_____________________(work)

_______________(cellular)

I have filed a copy of this with my attorney and a copy has been given to the child’s mother/father.

I thank you, in advance, for your consideration in this matter.

Respectfully yours,

Your Name

DATED this ________ day of _________, 2007.

SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN to before me this _____ day of ___________, 2007.

Notary Seal

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Live radio discussion of dead JW 14 year-old

by Nathan Natas in

in about 15 minutes, newsradio 710 (am) in seattle will have a discussion of the death of 14-year-old jw dennis lindberg.. if you are local to seattle, tune in!.

you can stream the show here:.

http://www.kiro710.com/showdj.asp?djid=31726.

alamb

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/103837/1.ashx

PLEASE pass this document on! File it in behalf of a minor who you have legal or joint legal custody of before another tragedy is allowed to happen!!! Don't depend on the law and the courts....you can see it failed this little boy.

Date:___________________________________________________________

Name of Minor:___________________________________________________

Name(s) of Legal Custodian:_________________________________________

_________________________________________

I am a resident of the State of ____________, over the age of 18, and fully competent to make this statement.

I am a parent of the minor child, ___________________________.This minor is a resident of the state of _________.

It is my desire, in signing this document and making it available to you and your institution, to let it be know that I do not agree with and will not consent to the refusal of a blood transfusion or any similar, necessary medical treatment when it is deemed appropriate for the health of my child.The health and well-being of my child are of utmost importance to me and I respect the judgment of the medical community in this regard.

I am aware that this child may be in possession of a medical identity card distributed by Jehovah’s Witnesses.I am aware also, that the child’s mother/father may be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and conscientiously object to medical treatment involving blood and/or blood products for medical use involving this child due to religious reasons.My child is not a baptized member of Jehovah’s Witnesses and cannot fully understand the implications of taking a stand regarding a life threatening situation based on Biblical reasoning endorsed by another person.My child is also a minor and not legally capable or bound to a medical decision made on his own behalf.

I am not one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and do not endorse this stand.As a parent to this child, I will be willing to sign waivers regarding the overriding of this document, if needed.I will also be willing to state this before a judge, if the matter is remanded to a court regarding the rights of my child.

I am attaching a copy of a recently published essay, "Jehovah's Witnesses, Blood Transfusions, and the Tort of Misrepresentation," in the Autumn issue of Baylor University’s Journal of Church and State, December 13, 2005.Information given to the Jehovah’s Witness parent has been proven to be a misrepresentation of the facts regarding blood and it’s use and I cannot agree with any decision not made without all the facts regarding a life-saving treatment.

I wish to be contacted in the event of a medical emergency involving this child.This may be objected to by the child’s mother/father but I am a legally recognized parent to this child and this is the lawful course.If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

I can be reached at:

Address: _________________________________________________

Phone:

___________________(home)

_____________________(work)

_______________(cellular)

I have filed a copy of this with my attorney and a copy has been given to the child’s mother/father.

I thank you, in advance, for your consideration in this matter.

Respectfully yours,

Your Name

DATED this ________ day of _________, 2007.

SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN to before me this _____ day of ___________, 2007.

Notary Seal

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No Blood Card: Counter document to file for your child

by alamb in

please find below a basic form that can be modified for your particular circumstance.

this should be filed with schools, attorneys, doctors, hospitals, etc.

as a counter to the no blood card.. .

alamb

PLEASE file this before another child dies. If you have legal or joint legal custody of a minor, please file this! Be sure to include legal certified copies of your legal papers stating your rights. The JW guardian WILL NOT phone you in the event of a crisis! Think ahead!

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Judge: 14-year-old Jehovah's Witness can refuse blood transfusion

by Gilberto in

a 14 year old can refuse a blood transfusion.

this is against the wishes of his parents.. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_jehovahs_witness_transfusion.html.

judge: 14-year-old jehovah's witness can refuse blood transfusionthe associated press.

alamb

http://www.freeminds.org/legal/legal.htm

Please go to the bottom of this page and click on the legal document to be filed in behalf of your little ones. I made it to be filed when you have legal custody of your minors but may not always have physical custody. The JW parent WILL NOT call you in case of an emergency. File this with hospitals and doctors in advance. Before something like this happens again!!!