Posts by _Morpheus

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ABC's report on child abuse
by Joyzabel in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
nice job!
_Morpheus

i went back and rewatched to get another take on the semantic. In the context used, refering to the leadership of the watchtower bible and tract society as "watchtower" was came off as incorrect and very clumsy. It perked my jw ears the first time and did so again. I take that viewpoint because nonwitnesses wont have any trouble believing the report as it is, only current jw's will question the validity.
and respectfully, no. The floodgates have not opened by any rational measurment or logical standard. There are over a million pubs in the usa. 20 cases is .002 percent of total publishers. I would agree that even one case is too many but its also sensationalized to call 20 a floodgate. if "watchtower" thought there were only 20 potential cases lurking they would laugh themselves to sleep at night.
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ABC's report on child abuse
by Joyzabel in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
nice job!
_Morpheus

@toesup- nailed for me. you cannot have it both ways:
Overall, i was glad candice came off so well spoken and so....."normal". no wild eyed apostate ramblings, just a woman who had been taken advantage of as a child taking a stand now. well done.
i wish there had been some oportunity for the ex jw community to contribute a touch to the reporting side. some of the term they used, like refering to the branch as "watchtower" out of context, will make current jw's quesrion the validity and depth of reporting. it also would have been nice to get them to quote more of the letter to the BO the quote they used was a bit out of context in their use although it was accurate overall. they also refered to twenty cases as "the floodgates opening" which seems a bit sensationalized. i hate to see the point lost by uneeded use of dramatics when candice herself was so well spoken and handled things so nicely. i credit them on the whole with taking this on and im glad the piece aired
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May KM Highlight 1/Cong baptized
by Gayle in
1. jw
2. friends
at 2014 conventions (regional?

) 14,039 baptized.

outstanding for 13,871 congs!
_Morpheus

lets be even more precise: that 40,000 per year is an old number (about 15 years old ) and came directly from the branch, no guess on that, and did not include thise who fell inactive or were reproved. the numbers are not trending well, but of course a large number df'd will be be reinstated and made 'active' again
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jw.org cart days numbered?
by jookbeard in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

i bet its very minimal.

naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.
_Morpheus

OTWO nailed it. its a zero investment for the branch as it is, any return is 'free money', but money the point anyway. it's publicity and keeping the members busy.
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A couple questions for atheists on Suffering
by little_Socrates in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

do you find any value in suffering?.

do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?
_Morpheus

Coffy and viv nailed it as far as im concerend.
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A couple questions for atheists on Suffering
by little_Socrates in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

do you find any value in suffering?.

do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?
_Morpheus

Im not sure what atheists you have been talking too but most i know find life exciting and vibrant, full of oportunity and wonder.
What i wonder is why god cant be bothered to help people who die in tsunamis but he answers prayers about....whatever petty random crap people pray about. Its not about avoiding suffering its about realizing that sky daddy cant be bothered to help when it really matters.
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A couple questions for atheists on Suffering
by little_Socrates in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

do you find any value in suffering?.

do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?
_Morpheus

Why do you think atheists believe life ISNT beautiful?
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Assembly in Seattle this weekend?
by Lynnie in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
does anyone know about an assembly or convention or whatever they call it now in the seattle-tacoma area in the last couple of weeks?

i have a ditzy cousin who posts on fb that the assembly was "promoting peace and the sun.

i'm sure they were really promoting money and the gb but my cousin is so newly brainwashed she has her own twist on everything.
_Morpheus

Peace and sun...? Is your cousin a dubbie or hippe :P
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A couple questions for atheists on Suffering
by little_Socrates in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

do you find any value in suffering?.

do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?
_Morpheus

I certainly dont think "all" suffering is evil. Suffering on a treadmill isnt evil. Suffering in the weight room isnt evil.... Unless you have heart attack on the treadmill. Or drop a 150lb barbell on your little toe..
the problem is you are defining "suffering" in such a general way its impossible to answer you specifically. Narrow it down a bit and more precise answer will be easy to provide
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a situation I know of and the mind set of the elders.
by joe134cd in
1. jw
2. experiences
ok here's the situation i know of.. a women was in a situation where she was forced to reveal a hidden sin and was given a private reproof for it.

before this she had an other wise clean slate.

btw the reproof was for an unrelated matter and had nothing to do with apostasy.
_Morpheus

Another former elder here, ditto to all the above.
its not personal, its not because your a woman. Its an unpaid job on their part and you get what you pay for... If you wernt in the cluiqe your just not on the radar much when you fade away....