When you consider it took 8 million salespeople to convert a mere 200k, its bleak. I see little to be encouraged about, from the jw point of view.... but, being the voice of logic, i must point out: its still not “decline”. They did in fact grow, albeit at a terribly slow pace given the theoretical effort into growth.
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2018-Annual Service Report!
by Atlantis inif this has already been posted just disregard.. 2018 annual service report one in english and one in spanish.
other news included.
zipped folder.
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Do You Ever Wonder Where Certain Posters Are?
by minimus indo people simply leave because the site has given them what they wanted?
are they now infrequent lurkers?.
did they go back to the watchtower?.
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Since you asked you could try to cut out the sophomoric personal attacks. You could try to stop seeing every disagreement as a personal vendetta. You could try to stop doubling down when you post nonsense and somebody has the temerity to point it out to you.
Cartoons wouldn't be high on my list of what you could do.
Soooo.... thats a firm “no” on the cartoon? In really think it may help. In sure most of your books have lots of pretty pictures. Im remain willing to try.
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Do You Ever Wonder Where Certain Posters Are?
by minimus indo people simply leave because the site has given them what they wanted?
are they now infrequent lurkers?.
did they go back to the watchtower?.
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Would cartoons help your reading comprehension? In willing to try if you think it will help :) -
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Do You Ever Wonder Where Certain Posters Are?
by minimus indo people simply leave because the site has given them what they wanted?
are they now infrequent lurkers?.
did they go back to the watchtower?.
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Outlaw hasn't been around for quite some time, got in a spat with Cofty
Yes cofty does make the forum unpleasent sometimes, doesnt he.
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Do elders still ask inactive members to write a letter to disassociating yourself from the Congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS indo today's elders ever meet with inactive members and pressure them to write a letter disassociating themselves from the congregation stating that, ''you no longer wish to a jehovah witness"?.
i was baptized at the young age of 16. after turning 18, i stopped attending meetings, field service, and all jehovah's witness activities.
i wanted to be with my high school friends, go to rock concerts, have a girlfriend, and live like a normal teen.
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As the manual posted earlier stated, if a JC was in process, that would end but would be put in the local file along with the notification to the Branch about the DA. If the person came back, then the original JC matter would be reopened.
We as a class were told never request a letter. NEVERCofty thinks you are naive because you can read and he does not agree with you.
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It’s interesting how to read the evidence from the elders manual
Cofty thinks you are naive because you can read and he does not agree with you.
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Are folk who DA themselves to be shunned in the same manner as DF'd persons then?
Yes. In the end the two forms of status (df’d and da’d) are the same to them. The announcement is the same. “Publisher X is no longer one of jw’s”. Fading is the only way to have a shot at not being shunned and its certainly not a given.
Cofty does not agree with what i said but he is wrong about that as well.
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Do elders still ask inactive members to write a letter to disassociating yourself from the Congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS indo today's elders ever meet with inactive members and pressure them to write a letter disassociating themselves from the congregation stating that, ''you no longer wish to a jehovah witness"?.
i was baptized at the young age of 16. after turning 18, i stopped attending meetings, field service, and all jehovah's witness activities.
i wanted to be with my high school friends, go to rock concerts, have a girlfriend, and live like a normal teen.
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Cited on page one of this thread, the ks txt book, chapter nine, paragraph two. Elders are not to try and force anyone to DA. Reading isnt your strong suit. Makes me question all those “i read a book that said...” threads you make.
I try to walk away but im constantly amazed at how ignorant you are and want to see how deep it can go. We havnt found bottom yet but i intend to keep digging. Its sunday night and there isnt much else going on.
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Do elders still ask inactive members to write a letter to disassociating yourself from the Congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS indo today's elders ever meet with inactive members and pressure them to write a letter disassociating themselves from the congregation stating that, ''you no longer wish to a jehovah witness"?.
i was baptized at the young age of 16. after turning 18, i stopped attending meetings, field service, and all jehovah's witness activities.
i wanted to be with my high school friends, go to rock concerts, have a girlfriend, and live like a normal teen.
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Let me revise and extend my (correct and accurate) remarks...
i correctly stated:
I never heard of a policy where anyone was asked to write a letter da’ing themself and it certainly isn't a current policy. . Either you are df’d, you take the initiative to write a da letter or you are inactive.
I will extend it to say “either you are df’d, you take the initiative to da yourself (such as writing a letter) or you are inactive” There remains no policy where they try to force someone to da. As steve stated, local elders may do whatever they do, its not policy.
It is also policy that you can da by actions, as simon noted. Thats not them making you write a letter, as has been pointlessly debated in the face of evidence to the contrary.
To the OP’s question, no there is still no ask you to write a letter policy.
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Do elders still ask inactive members to write a letter to disassociating yourself from the Congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS indo today's elders ever meet with inactive members and pressure them to write a letter disassociating themselves from the congregation stating that, ''you no longer wish to a jehovah witness"?.
i was baptized at the young age of 16. after turning 18, i stopped attending meetings, field service, and all jehovah's witness activities.
i wanted to be with my high school friends, go to rock concerts, have a girlfriend, and live like a normal teen.
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No no no!!! Im right even though morph proved me wrong!
😂😂😂😂 have fun with that. I leave you it.
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Do elders still ask inactive members to write a letter to disassociating yourself from the Congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS indo today's elders ever meet with inactive members and pressure them to write a letter disassociating themselves from the congregation stating that, ''you no longer wish to a jehovah witness"?.
i was baptized at the young age of 16. after turning 18, i stopped attending meetings, field service, and all jehovah's witness activities.
i wanted to be with my high school friends, go to rock concerts, have a girlfriend, and live like a normal teen.
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_Morpheus
As usual cofty cannot simply accept he is wrong and move on. Notice the opening words of this topic:
Do today's elders ever meet with inactive members and pressure them to write a letter disassociating themselves from the congregation stating that, ''You no longer wish to a Jehovah Witness"?
I cited, chapter and verse, the current organization policy which states, unequivocally, that NO, elders are not push people to DA. I give zero damns what some random elder did or did not do, but please continue to stamp your feet and insist that your false views are relevant.
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Do elders still ask inactive members to write a letter to disassociating yourself from the Congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS indo today's elders ever meet with inactive members and pressure them to write a letter disassociating themselves from the congregation stating that, ''you no longer wish to a jehovah witness"?.
i was baptized at the young age of 16. after turning 18, i stopped attending meetings, field service, and all jehovah's witness activities.
i wanted to be with my high school friends, go to rock concerts, have a girlfriend, and live like a normal teen.
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That isn't true. Blondie is correct. I have personal experience of elders trying to force a dissociation.
This isnt true. I am correct. As usual. And as usual i have plenty of evidance to back up my correct statments as opposed to you, cofty, who speaks with certitude on things and is more often than not, dead wrong. What is particularly troubling is that this relates to a book.. a book! Thats your strong suit, right..? Quoting books? Let me help you...
The latest elders manual makes no mention of asking somone to write a letter. In fact it specifically says that elders are not push someone to DA. Here is the relevant page. Note paragraph 2.
Please spend more time educating yourself before you pop off on things that are beyond you.