There was this one super annoying guy... i recall his avatar was red dot... wonder whatever became of him
_Morpheus
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Have You Ever Found Yourself Really Not Liking Someone Here?
by minimus ini've been on this board for years.
99% of the posters here i do not personally know.
a few, maybe not so much...lol..... do posters here get you upset to the point that you really don't like them?
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I appreciate "our" free speech.
by The Rebel ini had given serious consideration too leaving the board.
i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.
but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.
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_Morpheus
While i can acknowledge the 'no true scottsman' argument lets reframe the question and ask (again):
if a jw DID take a blood transfusion, what would we think about them? Are they a "real" jw.... or would you argue that they went against the tenannts of their reigion and wernt a true scottsman?
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I appreciate "our" free speech.
by The Rebel ini had given serious consideration too leaving the board.
i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.
but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.
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_Morpheus
I love how pointing out that islam is a problem turns into 'Muslim hate'.
I dont hate Muslims but i can and will acknowledge that islam teaches them to act as the terrorists are acting.... would any of us be supprised to see a jw die from blood loss? Would we call a jw that died after refusing a blood transfusion a radical jw...? Or would we correctly say he or she practiced their religion as most jw's would...?
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Whats in it for them?
by Moster ini have been out for nearly 40 years now - baptized at 14 (although not to the org), but faded away.
but i am wondering about this:.
aside from the obvious power they wield, what's is in it for the gb?
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_Morpheus
They dont think of it as "mind control" but they absolutely believe that the sheep cant be allowed to much freedom as they would stray. I have heard that directly fron louches arrogant ass mush mouth during morning worship. They think the rules are a protection for the weak.
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Whats in it for them?
by Moster ini have been out for nearly 40 years now - baptized at 14 (although not to the org), but faded away.
but i am wondering about this:.
aside from the obvious power they wield, what's is in it for the gb?
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_Morpheus
I think, as is true of any board of directors (or body of elders for that matter), there are a few general personality types.
You have a few who are there for the "right" reasons, ie they believe in the cause or company, want to help, do the right thing etc etc
you have a few who are loyal soldiers and were asked to join the board because they wont make waves and can be manipulated
some may not have wanted to say "no" because they thought it was an honor even if even if they didnt want the work...
and some people want power, plain and simple.
I saw it first hand in losche when was appointed to the gb (i was in Brooklyn unfortunately). Lunatic, full of himself, crazy ass theories that he liked to spout, liked to brag abput how many langues he spoke, talked to down american jw's about american customes and on and on...
tight pants tony really takes the cake on that though. The final straw for me was during the "zone visit" four or five years ago when he gave the now legendary "tight pants" talk. He sumerized all his asinine self promoting rules by saying, and i quote his arrogant ass directly, "if you dont like you can take it up with jesus". That arrogant son of a bitch actually put HIS words and rules on par with jesus. Although i was fully awake already that was really the final moment of 'oh hell no' for me. And whats worse, he was directly saying he wasnt going to listen any debate about his PERSONAL rules and views. Instead, if you dont like it, talk to his imaginary brother that he gets his imaginary authority from, which is of course impossible, because its all imaginary.
So yea, some of them may be true believers and some may be along for the ride but at least two of them are power hungry hungry asshats who know EXACTLY what they are doing and why.
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Breaking News, London: Van Ploughs into Pedestrians
by Simon in3 male passengers then get out and start stabbing / shooting people according to early reports.. but it could have been anyone for any reason, who knows, possibly jehovahs witnesses or amish.. maybe we'll never know the reason but i'm sure there will be people praying for those involved and hashtags.. thus solving the problem once and for all.. just "life in a big city" according to the muslim mayor of london, sadiq khan..
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_Morpheus
Your such a reactionary racist son of a bitch simon. Im sure its white racist white males who want to steal from poor minorities.... or american teenagers who are followers of the colombine kids... or people emulating timothy mcvey. Whoever it was im POSITIVE it wasnt islamic nutjobs waging war on innocents. It definitely wasnt that.
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48% Capacity at Kingdom Halls - A post on reddit
by berrygerry inthere was a letter read this week, followed by a talk about all the changes that are coming in the next couple of months regarding merging congregations in the area (va/md/dc) - the letter said that the kh's in the area are only being filled to 48% capacity.
this was music to my ears as i have noticed the decline in attendance in all the neighboring congregations.
they will sell some kingdom halls and merge some congregations.
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_Morpheus
Totally agree with the thought that the younger ones are looking at older ones and in my area (washington dc) MANY many older ones are being vocal to the younger generations about not selling themselves short educationally and in terms of job prospects.
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Hank's Witnesses
by doubtfull1799 injust had to share this - it was posted on reddit.
a brilliant and entertaining debunking of theism.. https://youtu.be/6x-lw9pc6ie.
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How Far Up The Ladder Did You Go In JW Land?
by minimus ini pretty much did it all.
vacation pioneered as a youngster and became a regular pioneer out of school.
i became a ms then an elder.....the organization pushes you to be somebody within the confines of their realm.
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_Morpheus
Interestingly being an ms or elder or piosneer etc isnt the measure of the watchtower ladder.
The measure of how far up the ladder you were is really to ask "how indoctrinated were you"
did you really think it was wrong to watch R rated movies?
did your really believe god was going to every man woman and child who didnt think your bronze age goat herder diety was right about everything?
Did you really believe that everything the gb (or wt) said was on par with the bible?
did you really think it was right to shun family and friends just because the watchtower said so...?
We could go on and on with examples but you get the point. Imaginary tittles (and tittles that only men could have anyway) were never the measure of the watchtower ladder... it was always how crazy were you willing to be for the cult.
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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.
by jwfacts inthere seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.
do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.
some of the methods include:.
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_Morpheus
Lol yea your right londo, on both counts.