Posts by _Morpheus

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Lloyd’s new book

by jwfacts in

i see there has already been discussion over lloyd’s new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

this includes discussion around his personality, motives and financial gains.

i have written a foreword for this book, because it is an important topic that has not been covered in such a complete format before.

paul, you seem unduly influenced by the talk of Lloyd making money. Largely, i haven't seen that to be peoples key issues with him.. in fact most of who have problems with him have outlined very specific behaviors and instances of misbehavior that bother us. Nothing to do with money.

Its also disappointing to see you distill all of this into simple "us against them" terms, as if we all (as ex jaw's) must think and agree on everything. The simple truth is even you describe lloyd as "a big personality". polite society knows that referring to someone as a "big personality" is simply another way of saying "jack ass".

The enemy of my enemy does not have to be my friend. clown who storm kingdom halls are not my friends. I despise them and their grandstanding tactics. They are not only pointless they are counter productive. Lloyd does not fall into that category, and many have comment on the benefits they got from his work.. again "dilly dilly"! for that im happy, sincerely and from the bottom of my heart. He HAS helped people. that dosent mean i have to like him as a person. it damn sure doesn't hurt other ex jaw's because i think he's a douche.

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Lloyd’s new book

by jwfacts in

i see there has already been discussion over lloyd’s new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

this includes discussion around his personality, motives and financial gains.

i have written a foreword for this book, because it is an important topic that has not been covered in such a complete format before.

_Morpheus

Paul, pardon the forth right nature of my question, but why is so important for you to defend that jack wagon? As i and others have observed, your at opposite ends of the personality and behavioral spectrum from lloyd. Its difficult to reconcile your passionate defense.

To each his own and all that, and while i cant stand him i understand some do like him and have benefited, and to that i say “dilly dilly!”... but you started a thread and have continued to be defend him. I feel as if im missing something. It almost feels like your pushing for us to like him and embrace him dispite what some have expressed as reasonable issues/concerns with his behavior and thats what i cant understand, the seeming desire for us to like him as you do.

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Lloyd’s new book

by jwfacts in

i see there has already been discussion over lloyd’s new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

this includes discussion around his personality, motives and financial gains.

i have written a foreword for this book, because it is an important topic that has not been covered in such a complete format before.

_Morpheus

I would like to emphasise the point made by '_Morpheus'

Did you bracket my name to draw attention to it? Are you suggesting that perhaps i am not the god of dreams??? Do you really believe that i am not the one who freed neo from the matrix????? Present your evidence or apologize, swine.

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Three Simple Reasons Why an Assault-Weapons Ban Is Bad Policy

by freemindfade in

i keep saying this is a bad place/policy to put all the time, energy and resources if you really do in fact care, or if you are just riding the agenda bandwagon: .

an assault-weapons ban is irrelevant to suicide deaths.

the large majority of gun deaths are suicides, and there is no credible argument that an assault-weapons ban will have the slightest effect on suicide.

_Morpheus

6.5 creedmore and now 6.0 credmoore being very recent examples

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Lloyd’s new book

by jwfacts in

i see there has already been discussion over lloyd’s new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

this includes discussion around his personality, motives and financial gains.

i have written a foreword for this book, because it is an important topic that has not been covered in such a complete format before.

_Morpheus

Paul, (pardon me for taking the liberty to call you by your real name as we have never meet),

Your site and your efforts are phenomenal. I appreciated your logic and reasoning and the decidedly “non rabid foaming at the mouth apostate” nature of them. In fact, your site had a decidedly noncommercial feel as well. It made it very easy to take your words and consider them free from any perceived bias or desire to ‘wow’ readers and earn views, and therfore money.

Also add to that your interactions here on this site. As participant you've always been reasonable and above reproach. Even when you disagree your demeanor is ... sane.

Lloyd comes off at times as a carnival barker. His time on this board was erratic and marked by child like temper tantrums over every little thing. His whole philosophy of jw activism screams “LOOK AT ME!!! IM HERE AND IN IMPORTANT!!!!” Instead of you putting the message ahead of self, as you do, llyod seems fixated on being a “personality” unto himself. That is, for me at least, at the core of my issues with him.

Its easy to say we are all on the same team but when someone reinforces the negative stero types we are not in fact on the same team.

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Three Simple Reasons Why an Assault-Weapons Ban Is Bad Policy

by freemindfade in

i keep saying this is a bad place/policy to put all the time, energy and resources if you really do in fact care, or if you are just riding the agenda bandwagon: .

an assault-weapons ban is irrelevant to suicide deaths.

the large majority of gun deaths are suicides, and there is no credible argument that an assault-weapons ban will have the slightest effect on suicide.

_Morpheus

Uhm.... simon has long allowed political discussion, dare i say argument, along with discussion of a variety of other issues that dont strickly pertain to the cult. You will find movie and book discussions, technology, family life, dating, cars, music dozens of other topics i cant pull off the top of head. Sooo.... yea. Politics gets discussed.

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Three Simple Reasons Why an Assault-Weapons Ban Is Bad Policy

by freemindfade in

i keep saying this is a bad place/policy to put all the time, energy and resources if you really do in fact care, or if you are just riding the agenda bandwagon: .

an assault-weapons ban is irrelevant to suicide deaths.

the large majority of gun deaths are suicides, and there is no credible argument that an assault-weapons ban will have the slightest effect on suicide.

_Morpheus

Well there was a school shooting last week so.....

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Three Simple Reasons Why an Assault-Weapons Ban Is Bad Policy

by freemindfade in

i keep saying this is a bad place/policy to put all the time, energy and resources if you really do in fact care, or if you are just riding the agenda bandwagon: .

an assault-weapons ban is irrelevant to suicide deaths.

the large majority of gun deaths are suicides, and there is no credible argument that an assault-weapons ban will have the slightest effect on suicide.

_Morpheus

Some ststes have already flat out banned them, like maryland

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Three Simple Reasons Why an Assault-Weapons Ban Is Bad Policy

by freemindfade in

i keep saying this is a bad place/policy to put all the time, energy and resources if you really do in fact care, or if you are just riding the agenda bandwagon: .

an assault-weapons ban is irrelevant to suicide deaths.

the large majority of gun deaths are suicides, and there is no credible argument that an assault-weapons ban will have the slightest effect on suicide.

_Morpheus

And then after the next time (there will be a next time) they will say “we didnt do enough!!!!”

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I Feel a Deep Sense of Justice

by sneekyapostate in

i, like all other victims of embarrassing scandals in the watchtower, experienced a huge sense of injustice with the organisation.

however, now with the recent arc pressure, charity commission and other authorities and media around the world, and even events in russia and financial struggles, it seems to me that the persecutor is now the one being persecuted and made to suffer.

this is giving me a huge sense of relief and feelings of satisfaction that justice is taking place.

_Morpheus

However, now with the recent ARC pressure, Charity Commission and other authorities and media around the world, and even events in Russia and financial struggles, it seems to me that the persecutor is now the one being persecuted and made to suffer. This is giving me a huge sense of relief and feelings of satisfaction that justice is taking place.

I can inderstand the desire to justice served and the understand the tendency to view the org as a monolithic body.

The truth is none of the event you mentioned effects the real villians, the gb, the asshats in legal or the service deaprtment. Those are the people who have inflicted harm on the cult members and they are ones to whom justice is really due. The people suffering in russia particularly are poor soviet left overs, people recruited under communism and their descendants, just average joes, so to speak, who got caught up in the same cult we did.

Thats not justice for the org. Thats otherwise (probably) decent little local cult members being abused and suffering.

As for “arc pressure”.... dont be fooled. It hasnt prompted one iota of change or pressure. If you think the gb are laying in their comfortable beds in warwick loosing one wink of sleep over a toothless report issued by a commission in australia, you are sadly mistaken.