The kh scam burns me up for the reasons that stuck mentioned. For whatever its worth here is a link to another topic where i explained what happened locally. I have no illusions that the selling of kh’s will be the issue that wakes people up en mass but it certainly has helped. Melano park being a big one but there was hall in texas that created a huge stir as well. People dont like theft, even when its gods organization doing the stealing.
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Watchtower growth ?
by pepperheart inin perth western australia the watchtower have sold a kingom hall to hindus for $2 million aust dollars and they have a second one up for sale in the same area embleton .
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Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?
by Sour Grapes inthere are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.
in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.
all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.
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Are you aware that your comments have twice as many dislikes as they do likes, while Sour Grapes has far more likes than you and almost zero dislikes? Just FYI, that means a lot more people agree with Sour Grapes than you
Oh no!!! Random internet people like ridiculous ideas more than sense! People didnt say nice things to me *morpheous begins sobbing* whatever shall i do??? I didnt receive validation from as many random internet people as some other random internet clown *morpheous begins crying uncontrollably* woe is me! And to top it off nevuela thinks this matters *morpheous curls into a fetal position and dies from shame*
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Grace Gough ( RIP ) left the JW cult in her 70s and went on to help 1000s to escape the cult
by Not_Culty inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7ilnoxvu4.
she helped me.
sent me my first copy of crisis of conscience (free) grace has been featured on many talk shows, including sally jesse raphael, raising awareness of support for cult abuse survivors.
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A life worth remembering.
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New World Translation REVISED Editions
by Wonderment ini have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.
here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.
albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .
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I agree 50 million is way to high but, at least in america, most dubs want two or three bibles. One for the meeting bag one for the service bag etc. although the digital app would decrease that. At the memorial 90% of the audiance was using the jw app for the bible.
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New World Translation REVISED Editions
by Wonderment ini have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.
here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.
albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .
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Well slim, first thank you for bringing this thread to my attention!
While this may be a supprise, let me say we actually have no disagreement on this topic. Rumor was spanish was already done (the new bible translation, that is). I would bet its a purposeful decision not to release it, and one based on money. After the english was released they likely ‘counted the cost’, that is they extrapolated the cost based on the results of the english release, and they dont think the spanish witnesses will carry the cost.
Bare in mind, ive never said the org didnt have problems and didnt need to make changes. Ive said they arnt collapsing, where as SOME people say they are currently collapsing or have collapsed or may one day collapse, depending on the thread ;) They simply cannot afford to live large in the way they did through the 1990’s. They are cutting costs everywhere they can and this translation release seems to be an area they have calculated to be not worth pursuing.
My bet is that the juice isnt worth the squeeze. In languages that didnt have a nwt already they just move forward with the “new” version. The english got released because they felt the english witnesses would make it financially viable (probably not how it worked out). Remember too that the proof readig was done by random bethelites, including people working in the laundry. In was rushed and sloppy. Here on the forum we found glaring errors in the headers. It was half assed and poorly done from the start. One wonders what the motivation to redo it was from the begining. Whatever their intent clearly it hasnt worked out for a lot of reasons and they dont see benefit in releasing in other major languages.
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JW's are slaves- but not in a good way
by joey jojo ini was reading about the american slave trade again recently.
as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.
every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.
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Omg pm me a link!!! I cant find it
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JW's are slaves- but not in a good way
by joey jojo ini was reading about the american slave trade again recently.
as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.
every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.
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@jwundubbed- you wrote (in part)
It isn't found in the white human trafficking slave trade. It wasn't among white men who made slaves of indigenous people, though it was sometimes found among indigenous people who made slaves of white people or foreigners. It is found in the indentured servants of the 1800s England and America.
read it again.... and again.... see the contradiction? Its not found among white people... but it is found among the indentured servants of england and america? Those are white people. In your rush to idenitfy the white man as the root of all evil you made directly contradicting statements.
Also never forget it was blacks who started slavery. It was the white man who ended it. Blacks still practice slavery to this day.
Also also there is no “good” form of slavery, workout exception. Indentured servitude is simply a whitewashed term. Its slavery by any other name.
You also said
But history is actually full of examples (rare though they may be) of people who actually went into slavery willingly.
sooo.... it is rare or is history full of examples? It cant be both.
your pseudo intellectual guano needs some polish.
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Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?
by Sour Grapes inthere are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.
in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.
all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 You must be new or drunk, tenacious. Never have i ever set my self up as an ex jw activist. I will give you a few min to find a single post to prove me wrong.....
also, nobody, not one single person on this forum whos been here longer than 5 seconds, would ever think i would suffer fools and their paranoid delusions of the gb holding meetings in a bunker or killing those who claim to be anointed or who are so clueless they dont understand the moronic nature of saying “Maybe showing proof that ones final will have the Watchtower Company as the sole beneficiary for everything?”.
If rediculious statements are left unchallenged it only leads to more tin foil hat wearing paranoid nonsense.
There are enough exjw morons who storm kingdomhalls and make youtube rants about Rutherford being a freemason and all sorts of other utterly moronic garbage. When i see something thats bat poop crazy i feel compelled to identify it as such. Your results may vary. I dont really care.
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Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?
by Sour Grapes inthere are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.
in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.
all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.
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Im always amazed at how far off the rails a topic can go... for instance, notice this:
The 8 Popes at Warwick know that PIMO's create a problem for them and how much better it would be if they weren't around because of the example they set and it can discourage the faithful to not be so faithful.
Thats fairly reasonable. Im not sure i agree, but i can certainly understand the point and see the logic behind it. Sadly, the question didnt get left there... we ultimately ended up with this:
was trying to think what would be some things the Gibbering Booty may demand to put things over the top? Something that I thought of is making tithing mandatory or setting minimum hours in service to 30 to 40 hours a month for everyone, How about having several meetings a month in some bunker as trial runs for the future. Maybe showing proof that ones final will have the Watchtower Company as the sole beneficiary for everything?
Sigh... there is so much wrong with that.... so much paranoia and rambling nonsense. Meetings in a bunker as a trial run? The wt as sole beneficiaries.. of what?? Wt property? Did you think about that before you wrote it? Minimum serivce hours... minimum or what? They already have an unofficial minimum of 9 and nobody cares. Dear thor its all so stupid.
I can see them wanting to weed out the weak. I can see them wanting to have people either commit all the way or drift off. All of your thoughts on how are just plain foolish.