And you are not an elder anymore.
😂😂 its not a real debate on jwn until someone playes the “your still in a cult” or “ your still acting like an elder” card. Its our equilivant to goodwins law.
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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_Morpheus
I'm done now and back to the real world but we made a difference and most people see it.
*snicker*
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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_Morpheus
Dont break your arm, patting yourself on the back 😂😂😂😂😂
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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_Morpheus
Rotflmao! I anxiously await it.
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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We spoke to lots of JW's
by “spoke to” do you mean yell at? Thats true, im sure. Talk to as in have actual dialog? Not a chance. Your an apostate. It didnt happen.
and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
Eh... maybe, but i doubt it. If one conversation with you shook him he already had doubts.
We've been approached privately by JW's who thanked us for coming
complete bullshit.
hey, if it makes you happy, protest away, but please dont fool yourself into thinking that its meaningful and dont think for one moment your self delusions are shared by anyone else.
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why the watchtower is so short of money
by pepperheart inthe watchtower is so short of money because they have to pay for all the upkeep of so many branch offices around the world.because so many of the branch offices are in very poor countries and they are not balancing the budgets.
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It was over a case in the USA, not europe, but yes it was tax avoidance
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why the watchtower is so short of money
by pepperheart inthe watchtower is so short of money because they have to pay for all the upkeep of so many branch offices around the world.because so many of the branch offices are in very poor countries and they are not balancing the budgets.
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This is what drives me nuts about your collapse discussions. You try to make economic arguements without any sound economic basis. It's like the WT arguing against science!
Db, you and i clearly see things in a similar way (httr, btw), but i have one small area of disagreement with the above. Slim does have a basis. His back side, which is clearly where he pulls these things from 😂😂
No one is saying that can't collapse nor is anyone here saying that they are doing great. But, you take such leaps in logic that now they are collapsing. No, last year they grew. Not by much, but growth is not collapse. Will they die one day? Sure, everything does. Is it by the end of the year? I'll wage my life savings the answer is no.
And thats where the slim one gets his wiggle room. Try to nail him down WHEN they will collapse. He will literally, in one thread, argue that they have already collapsed and then acknowledge that they will still be around in 100 years. Slim wants it all ways with no real measuring stick as to what he means. The irony is, slim really seems to mean nothing more than what most of us readily agree with: the org has changed and is changing. Membership, means of support, doctrine being forced to evolve etc etc. nobody debates any of that, but slim wants to hang sensational words like “collapse” on it and then duck and weave like ali when you try to pin him down what that means.
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No meetings memorial week
by Saltheart Foamfollower inthe august monthly announcements letter, among other things, says that if a memorial is midweek, there is to be no midweek meeting and if at a weekend, then no weekend meeting.
previously it was only no other meeting on the same day.
is this because so many congregations now share halls that scheduling it has become almost impossible?.
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It could be because of so many congregations using the hall. But I will suggest that Watchtower has been seeing a dip in contributions sent in from the congregations and will try to make the Memorial seem more "special" somehow, and hope that the cancelling of meetings makes everyone feel they should give more.
Otwo, are you hitting the sauce tonight? Normally your a levelheaded guy. Do you honestly see any logic or thought in your suggestion? Really...? Cancelling one meeting the week of the memorial would somehow inspire people to give more at the memorial? Thats so silly its beyond dissecting.
Of COURSE its because with kh consolidations schedules are too tight.
Of course it is. Yes. That is the clear obvious rational answer. Its not freemasons. Its not aliens. Its not some weird donation increasing scam. Its simple math. More people, fewer halls. -
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why the watchtower is so short of money
by pepperheart inthe watchtower is so short of money because they have to pay for all the upkeep of so many branch offices around the world.because so many of the branch offices are in very poor countries and they are not balancing the budgets.
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What sort of fantasy world monoply economics do some of you people use for your assumptions?
Let me get this strait.... the wt is collapsing and had to sell brooklyn to cover only a years worth of operating expenses... but somehow selling a few pidley local halls has been so profitable it also kept them going? Ifthey sold every kh in the usa it wouldnt amount to half of brooklyn.
Your (yes im purposely pissing off grammar nazis) the lot of you delusional and not being consistant with your own logic. If selling brooklyn for BILLIONS isnt enough for more than a year than a few local halls for mere 10’s (100’s at most) of thousands is almost not worth the time to discuss. Its a goddamn rounding error in slims delusional wt budget.
And where do you people come up with these imaginary ‘huge cash settlements’? Without cheating and using a search, how many lawsuits can name that the wt lost... answer zero. How many can you name that they settled...? No cheating....
i bet you got one: candace conti. There have been a few others but a very few. Given what conti was awarded by a jury there have been reasonable guesses on the settlement and its nowhere near what any of you think. The wt isnt being hammered with abuse cases.
Try to step back from your wt hate or even your anti wt bias and be logical. They are still growing. Thats the opposite of collapse. Televangelists crying for donations while living a life of luxury isnt new or unuque to the wt. they arent selling assets to cover operating expense since the assets they are selling arnt even close to what you claim their operating expenses are.
The old printing model wasnt working in an increasingly digital world. They are trying to remake themselves and as long as they have people they have money. We will still be arguing this ten years from now. Slim still wont admit he was wrong.
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International convention headed for cleveland August 2019
by nowwhat? injust sayin' btw what's so special about these anyway?
all it is, is inviting rich delegates from other countries to hear the same thing.
now here in cleveland as noted, there has been a lot of k.h.closings and consolidations.
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That's what my uber brother told me maybe I got bad intel
Lol you missed my sarcasm font.