I tell ya what i thought was interestong from the break was the young man he was interviewing. He demonstrated many hallmarks that witnesses shows woth regard to indoctrination. In the end the interviewer lead him back around and tried to connect dots for him on contradictory viewpoints, and it was a interesting listen start to finish, but that initial exchange with his description of his “calling” and early preaching was a crazy listen.
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I've Never seen anything quite like this interview
by TerryWalstrom inthis interview had me glued in place because i've never seen a q&a go quite like this.i'd love to hear your thoughts on it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxpgfekem_s&t=973s
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List of ALL Rape Quotes from the Watchtower!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower, june 1st 1968 issue, pages 347-350:.
awake!, july 8th 1980 issue, pages 5-6:.
resisting rapists.
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_Morpheus
Given that this thread is 16 years old and contains quotes more than 45 years old, i decided to check the current quotes in the elders txt book. They are as follows
The real problem is not whether or they require or advise a woman to scream in a rape situation( thats not been the case for sometime). The most signifigant problem, from my point of view, is that its not their damn business. They are a church, not a police force. If a woman was raped by a stranger the only words required are “im so sorry sister, do you want me to be with you when you call the police?” If she makes the claim regarding an acquaintance or someone she knows more personally (which is often the case), the correct response is “im so sorry sister, do you want me to be with you when you call the police?” They are neither empowered nor qualified to deal with the situation. Stay the hell out of it.
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Jahobies wifflebats, anchovies wonderbots, Harmonies wildebeasts
by Diogenesister inpoints out how ludicrous it is to base your religion on the name of god....when you don't actually know the name of god.. also...love the caricatures of russell and rutherford!.
https://youtu.be/__7t_bgi8oo .
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_Morpheus
I will do you one better... it was so important he let it get removed from his holy book that he was “protecting”
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The case of Jamal Khashoggi
by LoveUniHateExams injust been catching up on the case of jamal khashoggi.. khashoggi was a saudi journalist who 'went missing' on 2 october after visiting the saudi consulate in istanbul.. he visited the consulate in order to get paperwork that confirmed he was divorced from his ex-wife and free to marry his turkish fiancée.. the details that are emerging are harrowing and show just how barbaric the saudi regime is.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288131/jamal-khashoggis-apparent-murder-follows-disappearance-three-exiled-royal-princes.html.
these assassins are the kinda people my government (uk) and other western governments are doing business with, propping up, and acting all smiley with in front of the cameras.. i suddenly feel the need to take a shower ....
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_Morpheus
Lol trust? Why would you have ever trusted him in the first place? Why would you “trust” any world leader?
This whole situation highlights the seeming naiveté that people operate under. The saudis have killed others in the short time since this came to light. So have the iranians. And the turks. And on and on.
This guy is getting notice because the wapost is making it an issue. They like the mb. They paid this guy to advocate for the mb.
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The case of Jamal Khashoggi
by LoveUniHateExams injust been catching up on the case of jamal khashoggi.. khashoggi was a saudi journalist who 'went missing' on 2 october after visiting the saudi consulate in istanbul.. he visited the consulate in order to get paperwork that confirmed he was divorced from his ex-wife and free to marry his turkish fiancée.. the details that are emerging are harrowing and show just how barbaric the saudi regime is.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288131/jamal-khashoggis-apparent-murder-follows-disappearance-three-exiled-royal-princes.html.
these assassins are the kinda people my government (uk) and other western governments are doing business with, propping up, and acting all smiley with in front of the cameras.. i suddenly feel the need to take a shower ....
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_Morpheus
Again, reading comprehension isnt your strength. Read what i quoted and what i said in response. Im done spoon feeding the unwashed masses for the day.
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The case of Jamal Khashoggi
by LoveUniHateExams injust been catching up on the case of jamal khashoggi.. khashoggi was a saudi journalist who 'went missing' on 2 october after visiting the saudi consulate in istanbul.. he visited the consulate in order to get paperwork that confirmed he was divorced from his ex-wife and free to marry his turkish fiancée.. the details that are emerging are harrowing and show just how barbaric the saudi regime is.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288131/jamal-khashoggis-apparent-murder-follows-disappearance-three-exiled-royal-princes.html.
these assassins are the kinda people my government (uk) and other western governments are doing business with, propping up, and acting all smiley with in front of the cameras.. i suddenly feel the need to take a shower ....
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_Morpheus
Because he was a reporter working for the Washington Post!
False. He wrote opinion/pr pieces about the brootherhood. That is not “reporting”. He loved and died as a brotherhood press agent.The saudis have now confirmed his death. They claim he died in an altercation in the embassy. Tacit admission they killed him... and it changes nothing. Not a US citizen. Not our problem.
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The case of Jamal Khashoggi
by LoveUniHateExams injust been catching up on the case of jamal khashoggi.. khashoggi was a saudi journalist who 'went missing' on 2 october after visiting the saudi consulate in istanbul.. he visited the consulate in order to get paperwork that confirmed he was divorced from his ex-wife and free to marry his turkish fiancée.. the details that are emerging are harrowing and show just how barbaric the saudi regime is.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288131/jamal-khashoggis-apparent-murder-follows-disappearance-three-exiled-royal-princes.html.
these assassins are the kinda people my government (uk) and other western governments are doing business with, propping up, and acting all smiley with in front of the cameras.. i suddenly feel the need to take a shower ....
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_Morpheus
Al Qaeda? Muslim Brotherhood? ISIS? All fight amongst themselves for dominance but none of them are the good guys.
Yep. Throw the saudi in there too. They aren't heros, just (sort of) the least bad. And in the end khashoggi still doesn’t deserve one tear or one bit of the USA’s attention
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The case of Jamal Khashoggi
by LoveUniHateExams injust been catching up on the case of jamal khashoggi.. khashoggi was a saudi journalist who 'went missing' on 2 october after visiting the saudi consulate in istanbul.. he visited the consulate in order to get paperwork that confirmed he was divorced from his ex-wife and free to marry his turkish fiancée.. the details that are emerging are harrowing and show just how barbaric the saudi regime is.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288131/jamal-khashoggis-apparent-murder-follows-disappearance-three-exiled-royal-princes.html.
these assassins are the kinda people my government (uk) and other western governments are doing business with, propping up, and acting all smiley with in front of the cameras.. i suddenly feel the need to take a shower ....
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_Morpheus
Morph, I can't speak for Cofty, however, Osama was first and foremost seeking the overthrow of the Saudi ruling family
For Thors sake where do you people “learn” things? The ignorance is astounding, although tragically, not surprising.
osamas stated issues were Americas support of isreal and the military presence in saudia arabia. If you disagree, talk it up with him, if you can pull him away from his 77 virgins. Thats what he said.
Im lost as to why we are stuck on him beyond me pointing out that he and khashoggi were pals. I cited an article (there are many) that proved my point. Perhaps i should spell out for the less literate among us:
al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood are different. Bin laden was the nominal force behind al qaeda. Bad guys. Terrorists.
The muslim brotherhood are also bad guys. They are terrorists, support terrorists and want run the world as islam would make it.
Two different sets of bad guys with the same end result as a goal.
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The case of Jamal Khashoggi
by LoveUniHateExams injust been catching up on the case of jamal khashoggi.. khashoggi was a saudi journalist who 'went missing' on 2 october after visiting the saudi consulate in istanbul.. he visited the consulate in order to get paperwork that confirmed he was divorced from his ex-wife and free to marry his turkish fiancée.. the details that are emerging are harrowing and show just how barbaric the saudi regime is.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288131/jamal-khashoggis-apparent-murder-follows-disappearance-three-exiled-royal-princes.html.
these assassins are the kinda people my government (uk) and other western governments are doing business with, propping up, and acting all smiley with in front of the cameras.. i suddenly feel the need to take a shower ....
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_Morpheus
Shep, if i have to explain why iran and the mullahs are bad actors on the world stage, being sponsors of terror and all, then im not going to waste breath on it.
You admit the brotherhood calls for violent overthrow and then say ‘meh they all do’. I cant help you there either.
And as for who calls them a terror org... me. I did.... or do you also lack reading comprehension? If your suggesting im wrong thats your prerogative, of course, but, having admitted you know they call for violent overthrow of a government, you would obviously be ignorant as to the clearly text book nature of their mission and the accepted use of the term “terror organization”.
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The case of Jamal Khashoggi
by LoveUniHateExams injust been catching up on the case of jamal khashoggi.. khashoggi was a saudi journalist who 'went missing' on 2 october after visiting the saudi consulate in istanbul.. he visited the consulate in order to get paperwork that confirmed he was divorced from his ex-wife and free to marry his turkish fiancée.. the details that are emerging are harrowing and show just how barbaric the saudi regime is.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288131/jamal-khashoggis-apparent-murder-follows-disappearance-three-exiled-royal-princes.html.
these assassins are the kinda people my government (uk) and other western governments are doing business with, propping up, and acting all smiley with in front of the cameras.. i suddenly feel the need to take a shower ....
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_Morpheus
Morph - Conflating the MB with Osama bin Laden shows a very shallow understanding of Islamism.
Saudi was the primary target of bin Laden's anger.😂 your inablity to read and comprehend my plain english remarks shows why you shouldnt bother adults when they are talking .