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  2018 Service Year Report

  by Rattigan350 in

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  is there any word on what the results are for the 2018 service year report?.

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  Yea the stats are hidden now. Clearly they see the trends and decided to start de-emphasizing the stats while they were still showing marginal growth. That way when the stats actually show decline they have been hidden for a while and its not obvious
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  "The Branch did not approve of us to get a video security system"

  by James Jack in

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  this was the reply i was given by our coordinator at our recent kingdom hall security meeting.. he explained that they aren't allowed to buy any appliances or do any changes to the kingdom hall without branch approval.

  "we put in our letter that a video security system could be purchased for around $600 locally and an app could be downloaded for the attendants to monitor the cameras what's going onoutside.

  " they said;" such a system would not be needed in our area of the country, if standard protocols of security are followed as outline by the branch.

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  Morph, the local KH found their roofing shingles at a steep discount compared to the price that the LDC had. Nope. They supply all for the project. Don't rock the boat. Theocratic Order. Blah blah etc, etc.

  ahh ok i see what your saying. The example helped to clarify.. The problem is it may not be “like for like” in the case of the items on sale. Cheaper quality etc etc... the fact is, there is no kickback setup for the ldc to purchase at a higher price and the branch to get the difference.

  Its pure and simple a typical corporate move. As they become more centralized they dont want locals making decisions. The group that works at corporates direction kisses ass at all cost and obeys the letter of the law no matter how stupid.

  if you want a kick back scam there has been one around for a long while... well besides the kh scam itself.

  Look at circuit leasing.
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  "The Branch did not approve of us to get a video security system"

  by James Jack in

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  2. beliefs

  this was the reply i was given by our coordinator at our recent kingdom hall security meeting.. he explained that they aren't allowed to buy any appliances or do any changes to the kingdom hall without branch approval.

  "we put in our letter that a video security system could be purchased for around $600 locally and an app could be downloaded for the attendants to monitor the cameras what's going onoutside.

  " they said;" such a system would not be needed in our area of the country, if standard protocols of security are followed as outline by the branch.

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  Morph, it's true that they have volume discounts, but if locals find the same product at a lower price, they still have to purchase through the LDC

  No, they do not.
  
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  "The Branch did not approve of us to get a video security system"

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was the reply i was given by our coordinator at our recent kingdom hall security meeting.. he explained that they aren't allowed to buy any appliances or do any changes to the kingdom hall without branch approval.

  "we put in our letter that a video security system could be purchased for around $600 locally and an app could be downloaded for the attendants to monitor the cameras what's going onoutside.

  " they said;" such a system would not be needed in our area of the country, if standard protocols of security are followed as outline by the branch.

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  To the OP, its tragic and yet its the way the org has gone. The LDC has taken over, at the request of the branch, everything. Nothing is local anymore and with no feeling of individual ownership i predict it will lead to less and less care by local witnesses.

  This, on the other hand...:

  Lots of halls have security cameras. The objection is probably that it is not an apporved system; meaning it has to be bought from an approved supplier and installed by him, for several thousand $$$ (with kickback).

  Is ludicrous. They have a program for volume discounts already on lots of things. No kickbacks. Stop with the foolishness already.
  
  
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  Do you know which Watchtower publication this picture came from?

  by McLovin in

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  I sincerely hope a two hour Cedars video about that image

  😂😂 he will claim to have the image exclusively 😂😂😂😂
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  Do you know which Watchtower publication this picture came from?

  by McLovin in

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  I dont object to yelling those words, @running away. I yell them everyday. Few seem to listen.
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  Asylum Caravan

  by dubstepped in

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  alright, so what is the deal with the thousands coming to the states right at election time seeking asylum?

  i'm not up on this, usually try not to be, but how can this not be manipulative?

  it's either manipulative in the size of the group and pressure that creates, or in where it started or who started this, etc.

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  https://www.hannity.com/media-room/tapped-out-tijuana-mayor-says-city-cant-cope-with-30000-per-day-bill-for-migrant-caravan/
  
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  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Bother You At All?

  by minimus in

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  i faded from the religion and simply didn’t go back.

  once people understood that my family and i left, people in the congregation didn’t know what to do.

  should they call me, visit me, leave me alone?

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  Im more bothered by some of the former jw’s 😂😂
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  They would Stone us if the law would allow

  by ElderEtta in

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  several years ago unless i was dreaming i read a watchtower quotation that effectively said that they would execute us as disfellowshipped individuals if the law would allow.. was i dreaming?.

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  Fat, i appreciate the logical response. My retort is above. That is a recension, plain as day. You remark regarding anecdotal accounts is exactly right. I have known plenty of jw’s who would take a shot at apostates, given a chance. That doesn't make it wt policy, it doesnt mean the wt org teaches such actions.

  im simply presenting things as they are, not as some would wish them to be.
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  They would Stone us if the law would allow

  by ElderEtta in

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  several years ago unless i was dreaming i read a watchtower quotation that effectively said that they would execute us as disfellowshipped individuals if the law would allow.. was i dreaming?.

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  I took it that the phrase ''Several years ago...... I read'' to be past tense,

  Lol see! You arnt as stupid as you pretend :) you do know “several years ago” is past tense and, im assuming, you are then smart enough to know it doesn't mean, in any context other than geology, 65 years ago.

  Common ground is amazing!