What a gut wrenching thread. This is precisely why i refuse to openly DA or allow myself to be DF'd. I will not allow them to have that level of influance by putting people i care about in a position to choose between me and the cult, knowing the cults influance. Unfortunately that choice is taken from so many
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Are Parents Who Shun Their Children At Risk?
by Englishman inwho looks after the welfare of ageing witness parents who have disfellowshipped children?
are these df'd children (actually, some of these df'd children are in their 60's) meant to ignore being ignored and then care physically for their non speaking parents?
also, can df'ing your own children lead to witness parents suffering illness or even death as a result?.
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BIG NEWS RELEASE: DRONES
by JOE_BLOW_ELDER inexciting watchtower news!
watchtower and i-drone in a strategic relationship.
(ap) i-drone is set to hover over each house dropping leaflets and airing spiritual soft rock ballads (such as the classic i dont get no education, satan blinded me with science or not hungry like a wolf because sheep are our friends***).
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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Cases of fornication when only one of the involved individuals will confess
by Judge Rochefort inwhat happens in cases of fornication between two jehovah's wintesses if one of them confesses but the other denies the facts?would there be a judicial committee to the one who confesses while the other individual would be left as if nothing had happened?i would love to know specially the opinions of elders or ex-elders.thank you!
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Yep, i will simply echo what others have already said: the confessor gets a JC, the lier gets off. Had it happen our hall. We firmly believed the confessor, didnt douch the lier, trusted the desert god to deal with the person. -
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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How very interesting thats its almost dead even! Gender dosent seem to play role, at least with the informal statistics gathered so far :) thats why this is interesting to me. We may have a suspicion or a gut feeling but looking at the hard data can really shake those and give valuable insight amd i absolutly LOVE this kind of data!
as an aside on the 'women are more emotional' debate.... I have seen anecdotal evidance both for and against that.... My own dear mother can be the most logical rational ruthless person i know (i dont mean that derogatoraly at all nor do i mean to suggest she dosent express love) wheras my father can be rather impulsive and emotional at times. Conversly i know my share of women who fit the protypical emotional woman stereotype. Confirmation bias can really skew our views on these things and i realized long ago that trying to put someone in a catagory for any reason, be it gender race ethnicity etc etc is to sell them and me short. I let people show who they are via word and deed. Its all i ask for myself, its only fair to give them the same chance.
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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Update my unofficial noncertified poll (first hand experiances only),
husband - 7
wife - 7
wife mentally out first but husband spoke out first - 1
husband mentally out first but wife spoke out first - 0
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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*cough cough*... Its been noted that the sites owner didnt give a personal response for tabulation ;) -
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Cancer healing—using emotions
by abiather in[i have some posting problems from my computerreply portion gets hung, hence giving it here].
when i posted the cancer healingusing emotions, it is given as just a link with no recommendation, nor with any comments from me.
it is not presented as a sure cure for the cancer-patient.
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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@oub- im only going with first hand experiances in my unofficial noncertified poll, so i will count you as a husband first
So after ob and OEJ, we have:
husband - 3
wife - 1
wife mentally out first but husband spoke out first - 1
husband mentally out first but wife spoke out first - 0
