Posts by _Morpheus

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Is there a Child Molester on the Governing Body?

by TTATTelder in

great report by abc on the abuses in jw-dot-org land.... i hope it opens a "floodgate" of future news reports and exposes.

if you ask yourself, "why hasn't the watchtower leadership changed their policy on the 2 witness rule?

if one or more persons on the gb has victims out there that can't come forward because of the 2 witness rule, then that would explain the permanent road block to policy change that is obviously in place.

_Morpheus

is it "possible"? of course its possible. wirhlut being overly sarcastic there are a great many things that are possible, but not likely.

you referanced an occam's razor, the simplest answer being the most likely. the simplest answer is that the gb are old men with power, beholden to the idea that they represent the one true god and the standard set is the right one. they also may fear changing policy now would would be to admitt they were wrong before and thus expose them to liablity. those seem to be the most basic, logical reasons rather some secret fear of being exposed via a rule change they can prevent.

that is not to say i think its impossible one of them could be a pedophile. they are human and its certainly possible. it just dosent seem the most likely explanation for their reluctance to modify church policy.

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Borg music video a real tear-jerker

by Slave4_38y in

this is a must watch video.

it brought tears of laughter!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx-akomec3q.

_Morpheus

"he lyrics talk about the best choice I can make. As a Jehovah's Witness I know first hand the social pressure to conform is strong. The choice was made by the organization for the girl to skip college and the man to turn down the overtime job. It wasn't their choice"

yep. i also agree with simon on why struggling with doctrine is so hard. its not the main appeal for many.

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Factions, or flip-flops, or both?

by Fernando in

do the individual article writers have persistently opposing views, or do they each just flip-flop between opposing views?.

what have you observed?.

_Morpheus

in the old days (pre 1980's) it was very much individuals having views. now there a lot more standardization, a lot more people read, review and approve before publication. its why the articles seem so much more homogeneous, very bland. by the time they are written, scrubbed for controversy and approved by legal and the gb, they are tepid at best.

the truth of their views seems to be much more on display when they speak in public like the j w o r g talks, zone visits etc etc

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KH 1st timer, could use some advice

by rathernotsay in

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hey people, .

i am soon going into a kh for the first time and i could use some advice around etiquette etc.

i know next to nothing besides the fundamental beliefs of jws, i personally dont believe in any religion, and that stance isnt ever going to change, however i don't want to come across as rude or disrespectful.

_Morpheus

in your last thread you asked if you should make her leave her religion to prove her faithfulness. now your suggesting you may go to the hall instead. there seems to be a disconnect in these thoughts, a lack of vision or pathway to restore your relationship and your flittering from one extreme to another in an attempt to simply try something, anything, to make it work.

this seems a bad idea. going will only give her hope you will join the church and will validate her desire to keep going. you two have much bigger issues with her being so much younger than you and both of you seeming a bit unprepared for the demands of marriage and parenthood.

professional counciling will help vastly more than a trip to her local cult recruiting center.

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Bro Lett at Int. Conv in Israel last year.......

by WingCommander in

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having been recently introduced to governing body member lett's "unique" speaking style, i found another video on youtube (and also on jw.org) of bro lett visiting the international convention in israel.

apparently his buffonery is not only reserved for video intro's to dramas, but also in real life as well.. i used to think those ol' time pentacostal and baptist ministers in tents would overdue it......i was wrong.

this guy has them all beat.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltvx_e4xe4e.

_Morpheus

I went to an international convention in Hawaii when i was still a true believer and he came off as a buffoon to me even then. his antics were very off putting and i just couldnt take sitting and listening to him

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Shorter meetings for field service

by hoser in

march kingdom ministry insert is about how the field service meetings will be shortened from 10 to 15 minutes down to 5 to 7 minutes.

they want the publishers to report more hours.

in my experience the problem isn't the length of the meeting for service but pioneers and publishers dogging it after the service arrangement.

_Morpheus

"If field service was made optional for JW's, monthly reports are abolished, & the pioneer titles discontinued, I wonder how many would turn up... "

this.

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File Requested--2011 School For Congregation Elders Manual!

by Atlantis in

file request!.

2011 school for congregation elders manual.. if you see an apple ad pop up just click the x.. and then click the green download button.. .. .

http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/o1imgaf.

_Morpheus

woe very nice atlantis!!!!

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"Why I don't like people coming to my door, selling religion"

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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this is from a blog, "news from me" that i read fairly regularly.

mark evanier is, among other things, a comic book writer (co-writer for "groo-the wanderer), a television writer, a great raconteur, and was a close person friend of jack kirby, one of the world's greatest comic book artists.he got an email from a jw trying to explain why they come to his door.evanier's answer is well thought out, and should explain to even the densest j-dub why people really don't like being bothered.

maybe his correspondent will take it to heart, but probably not.

_Morpheus

great read on a saturday morning

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ABC's report on child abuse

by Joyzabel in

nice job!

_Morpheus

i went back and rewatched to get another take on the semantic. In the context used, refering to the leadership of the watchtower bible and tract society as "watchtower" was came off as incorrect and very clumsy. It perked my jw ears the first time and did so again. I take that viewpoint because nonwitnesses wont have any trouble believing the report as it is, only current jw's will question the validity.

and respectfully, no. The floodgates have not opened by any rational measurment or logical standard. There are over a million pubs in the usa. 20 cases is .002 percent of total publishers. I would agree that even one case is too many but its also sensationalized to call 20 a floodgate. if "watchtower" thought there were only 20 potential cases lurking they would laugh themselves to sleep at night.

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ABC's report on child abuse

by Joyzabel in

nice job!

_Morpheus

@toesup- nailed for me. you cannot have it both ways:

Overall, i was glad candice came off so well spoken and so....."normal". no wild eyed apostate ramblings, just a woman who had been taken advantage of as a child taking a stand now. well done.

i wish there had been some oportunity for the ex jw community to contribute a touch to the reporting side. some of the term they used, like refering to the branch as "watchtower" out of context, will make current jw's quesrion the validity and depth of reporting. it also would have been nice to get them to quote more of the letter to the BO the quote they used was a bit out of context in their use although it was accurate overall. they also refered to twenty cases as "the floodgates opening" which seems a bit sensationalized. i hate to see the point lost by uneeded use of dramatics when candice herself was so well spoken and handled things so nicely. i credit them on the whole with taking this on and im glad the piece aired