The best policy, imho, is what you did.... Don't overreact. Offer your view, smile and move on. Fighting the cult mindset isnt won through overt punchs, its encouraging the things you mentioned, free thought being the most critical. I get miles better results with my kids when i simply ask them "what do YOU think" and reafrirm any answer that isnt the cults. Him offering you a tract is no big deal. He maybe didnt want anything more than to see how you would react or maybe he just wanted to reach out to you and that was an easy way that came to mind. Offer to do something with him that saturday immediatly after the memorial.
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Son handed me a Pamphlet today!
by J-DUBBED indidn't know how to react.
seeing as to how i've been trying to "love bomb" him and trying to bring out his original persona by having him talk about old times with our hobbies, etc.
i just said not interested........i said i've lost faith in all religions.
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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Kewpie, i agree people shouldnt be mocked simply because english isnt their first language.
I think in this case it stems from two root causes:
1) in the united states and other primarly english language cultures, many fraud artists send spam emails that are very poorly written and translated into english via google or similar means. Those phising emails come acrros reading very much like the OP here. Given the very dubious nature of the OP it all adds up to a very spammy or phishy reading post.
2) its relevant because the service department (and all others for that matter) at headquarters here in the USA are all english speaking. For the poster to have so much trouble posting in english casts another shadow of doubt on his claims. If the language barrier between english and whatever his or her native tounge may be is so signifigant how could they possibly effectivly communicate with the english speaking service department, let alone fordge friendships strong enough to get access to confidential information regarding a future relaxing of the "shunning" policy?
Thus it seems relevant in this case and for those reasons to question the posters grasp of english. Further, as noted before, i actually DO have "friends" (former aquantinces who would shun me if they knew i was apostate) in writing and service. They have both assured me that absolutly no information is forthcomming regarding a relaxing of any policy on DF'ing or the so called shunning aspect of it.
The OP is complete and total malarky.
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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@poopie- you are absolutly not in touch with anyone in writing or teaching. I have "friends" who are in fact in writing and they have for certain affirmed that any rumor regarding an end to the DF'ing arrangment as we know it (including so called shunning) is absolutely untrue.
Normally i wouldnt care about silly tripe like your post but this particilar policy causes a lot of people personal discomfort and pain. I hate to see them have false expectations of relief based on your obvious lies and exagerations.
The policy is going nowhere.
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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left
by Designer Stubble init appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article
by Perry ini just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .
they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.
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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left
by Designer Stubble init appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
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Marvins thread tittle completly glosses the topic! I didnt even bother clicking because it didnt seem interesting (at a glance). However a new broschure directed towards inactive ones does peak my curiosity.... The chapter titles, if accurate, betray an astonishing lack of insight as to why people leave.
Of course that brochure isnt really written for the inactive. Its written, like all things, for the sole consumption of the faithful. Its a way to put reason to those that leave...either they were disgruntled or impatient, in effect. "See! I know thats why my brother or sister or best friend left because i read in this brochure!" After all, those that leave know better. We know exactly what our issues are and no brochure is going to fix. The org knows too. They will never address the real issues because of course they cant, but they can continue to put a smiling face on and look welcoming if for no other reason than to create a sense of comfort among those that stay for the fleecing.
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4 BOEs Just Arrived-Petra!
by Atlantis inthese are from one of the informants who contact atlantis.
we thank him/her for their contributions to us.. 4 boes just arrived.. .. click the links below and then click the green download button.. .. 2015 jw broadcast userguide.
http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/d6lpjad.
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Watchtower: You Made us Apostates!!
by kairos inif you are willing to pay attention to the org's history and do any kind of unbiased personal research, it's impossible to miss ttatt.. watchtower's publication archive provides all the information anyone would ever need.where are all of the "half truths and outright lies" actually coming from?
( old light ).
why, oh why, back in 1989 when i first got hooked did i not do any research into the watchtower corporation?.
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Its true kairos. I also take you thread tittle in this respect: they made us apostates when they taught us one thing, told us it was absolute truth and then changed it. We were then left with the terrible option: to either realize what we first believed was wrong and apostate or keep on believing what they now said was wrong and be apostate....
in the end, its their fault
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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There is another conclusion:
god DID create the 'world'. It was cruel, violent and wasteful. By his standards it was indeed "good".... If we take him at his word, that is :)
i dont know which suits bible belivers more but i know which i prefer....
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4 BOEs Just Arrived-Petra!
by Atlantis inthese are from one of the informants who contact atlantis.
we thank him/her for their contributions to us.. 4 boes just arrived.. .. click the links below and then click the green download button.. .. 2015 jw broadcast userguide.
http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/d6lpjad.
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A thanks to atlantis and all those who make sharing the letters possible :)
as a referance, the above letters all relate to a zone visit in england amd the letters are from fhe london branch office.