You have the right idea. I find many, and some very supprising people, have doubts. Take a breath and give a small opening. Watch them open up or clam up. If they open up you know you have a potential friend and all, just dont go rushing in full force. If they clam up and go full on cult mode, just smile and move on. As time goes by you will feel more comfortable. The fear fades and you will get a good sense of how far you can push things.
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still in .. wishing for a ttatt brother in the hall
by user100 inthe entire hall was invited to a party at a brothers house after the memorial.. actually had conversations with a few people.. two guys that were recently disfellowshipped and since re-instated... would love to see what they really think about the religion.. but have no idea how to bring it up.. .
my beliefs are quite in the open (i think), i am inactive and do not comment or give talks.. i dont sing, i dont close my eyes during prayers and i dont say amen... funny though.. we were having a conversation, one of the recently re-instated asked me which service group i belong to.. my reply after some thought was... "i have no idea" .. coz seriously.. i had no idea.
wonder how that went... they all laughed it off including the pioneer drone standing next to me... i am tempted to ask them if they value freedom of speech and if so do they think we have freedom of speech in the jw religion.....
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The 50 Ways to Be Disfellowshipped
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
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@wildthing- the flock book states the list is not all inclusive. They would never limit themselves in print. Its merely a top 10 list, so to speak. -
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These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included
by Crazyguy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
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Sigh... As usual when these childish antics are demonstrated its the witnesses who end up looking rational. The 'brother' takes the wine glass and passes it to the next person as the clown rants irrationally about things 90% of the audience has no context for....
Thank you for setting back the cause of reasoning with my family and friends 10 years, but hey it made you feel good to stand up in front of them and spout out for 20 seconds while your equally childish friends snickered and recorded.
What real bravery did that take...? Anyone whos ever been a witness or grew up a witness or even just studied for a while knows they are nonviolent as individuals and certainly at meeting there was no danger whatsoever. It was frankly an act of bullying.
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Red Moon Over China
by fulltimestudent inperhaps the recent lunar eclipse was heaven's way of demonstrating approval of the tremendous changes in china.. here's some images from the china daily:.
the total lunar eclipse as observed in shenzhen, south china's guangdong province, april 4, 2015. the moon slipped fully into earths shadow saturday, starting a total lunar eclipse for nearly 12 minutes what guangdong astronomical science association says it was the shortest such eclipse of the century.
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Seriously? Heavens approval? You do know that moon was seen woldwide.... Did heaven approve of all nations? Rhetorical question of course, but all these pro china posts leave me wondering if you know the primary subject matter of this board -
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The 50 Ways to Be Disfellowshipped
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
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@bonds- Child sex abuse is listed as its own sin not as a subset of lose conduct. It is pornia broadly speaking. -
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Crazy stupid bible, found another problem concerning Jesus death story, and its funny too
by Crazyguy inmatthew 27:50-54new international version (niv).
50 and when jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.. 51 at that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.
the earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open.
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Crazy stupid bible, found another problem concerning Jesus death story, and its funny too
by Crazyguy inmatthew 27:50-54new international version (niv).
50 and when jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.. 51 at that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.
the earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open.
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Holy s***t! I never noticed the "after his resurrection line! Great catch -
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LOL Deut 13:1-5
by Jonathan Drake inomg i've never read this before or if i did i never caught it... .
13 [a]if a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder,2 and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them, 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the lord your god is testing you to find out if you love the lord your god with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 you shall follow the lordyour god and fear him; and you shall keep his commandments, listen to his voice, serve him, and cling to him.
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@crazyguy..... May the Thunderer, the Odin son, THOR smite ye mightly.
freemind, thats an very interesting observation. I have long pondered that the opening of genesis wasnt some trinity or as the witnesses believe the desert god speaking to jesus but a reflection of their early polytheism. If leola ever peeks in here i wonder she would say on this.... She did a lot of reading on the evolution of hebrew theology and its interesting to explore
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Every Governing Body Decision is from Jehovah
by B4Right inhow do you convince a jw that every decision that comes from the governing body is not from god?.
my mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " jehovah knows what we need".. for you who now know ttat what did it take for you?.
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Every Governing Body Decision is from Jehovah
by B4Right inhow do you convince a jw that every decision that comes from the governing body is not from god?.
my mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " jehovah knows what we need".. for you who now know ttat what did it take for you?.
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Lol oh i so love the dubbie mindset. Its not that ANY school tells you what books to buy and study in advance, no no, ONLY PIONEER SCHOOL (tm) does that! Lol oh my.... As a wise comedian once said "you cant fix stupid".
Im not calling your mother or any other witness stupid btw, but its a funny remark that highlights people have to want to see the obviousness of the truth. Its frustrating at times that they ascribe every little random good thing to their desert god but any negative thing is unforseen occurance or satan...
Just as superstitious as the bronze age desert people they are imitating.