Im somewhat supprised at the 'how dare they appeal' sentiment. What else do you expect the org or any person or institution to do in the face of a damaging ruling that could potentially lead to more damaging verdicts...? Of course they are going to appeal and appeal every aspect on every single ground they can manufacture. Its what any corporation would do. Ot shpuld be absolutely no suprise amd frandly dosent ring as hypocritical to me, as much as i would like to see it that way. Its not personal. It's business. I do agree with the idea that could potentially backfrire and i hope to thor it does ;)
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California Supreme Court Case - S226656
by Gayle inhttp://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.
started 5/27/2015.
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Revised New World Translation
by FusionTheism ini just wanted to put it out there that i am actually truly impressed by the revised nwt.
i think it's an awesome bible version.. the only issues i have are that it should only have "jehovah" in the new testament when quoting the old, and the alternate translation of john 1:1 in the footnote should be in the main text..
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_Morpheus
Thats great fusion thanks for sharing.
How did you feel about the previous version?
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THIS IS WHAT WITNESSING HAS BEEN REDUCED TO IN 2015
by steve2 inthreads on the newer jw face of public "witnessing" have shared in common the astonishment that jws safely park themselves behind their literature trolleys and exercise incredibly little contact with passersby.
whether the poster is talking about europe or the united states or australia, descriptions here are the same.. literature stands are protective sheilds behind which jws huddle, talking to each other, sipping on their espressos, whilst the disinterested world passes by.
neither the jws nor the passersby catch each others eyes.
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Its a bit deceiving, the appearance of the trolly people. The reality is only a select few get to stand at the carts, pionsneers approved by the CO. Most dubbies srill trudge from door to door in between coffee breaks. The 'work' is a joke in its totality, not just just the few who stand by a cart. -
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Why did the org "forgive" KH mortgages?
by Magnum ini know this has been discussed, but i think it's good that topics like this get brought back up from time to time for the sake of newbies and lurkers, plus, i have a question (related at end of post).. the org brags about "forgiving" kh mortgages as if it's so loving and giving.
i put the word in quotation marks because most of us realize it wasn't forgiving anything.
the new arrangement should actually bring it far more money.. for example, suppose there are twenty congregations total.
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_Morpheus
To top it off the obvious is being overlooked: The money that was "loaned" to congregations was donated to the org by congregation to begin with. The org does not generate income. They have no money to lend.... So to sumerize congregations donate money to the org. The org "loans" it back to congregations to build a KH.... A kingdom hall the org itself OWNS lock stock and barrel! Its is the ultimate scam. -
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I have been blocked!!!
by username inas the title eludes, i have been blocked from a website, the cheek of it.
what site you may ask?
i was blocked from a active jwforum, i haven't even posted any comments yet haha!
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It Is Official, Just as Predicted on this Site... Local Cong Donates all Monies on Deposit with You Know Who!
by RichardHaley inmy local cong just donated all money (4k +) on deposit with you know who to, you know who.
"since the society forgave all kingdom hall loans the boe felt it only appropriate to forgive the society of our loan to them.
" is exactly how it was presented to the r&f.
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_Morpheus
@listener- the current rumored structure is to be all donations sent to the branch, local LDC pays bills and of course local LDC is branch appointed and accountable. The rationale is if a congregation sends ALL money to the branch there is no '3 month reserve' clause to allow congregations to decide how much to keep. There is alao a feeling that many congregations "misuse funds" slyly, buying pioneer dinners, throwing congregation picnics etc etc. they also simply want ALL funds available immediatly instead of a trickle through the cingregation process. Again, its all a "plan" but it being discussed somewhat seriously... -
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It Is Official, Just as Predicted on this Site... Local Cong Donates all Monies on Deposit with You Know Who!
by RichardHaley inmy local cong just donated all money (4k +) on deposit with you know who to, you know who.
"since the society forgave all kingdom hall loans the boe felt it only appropriate to forgive the society of our loan to them.
" is exactly how it was presented to the r&f.
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_Morpheus
To richard and all... Some clarificarion is needed here... Its actually NOT official at all. This was the decision of one BOE, not an official org policy to send them all congregation funds.
The reason im clarifying is because at some point it is expected it WILL be made official. All funds will go to the branch and the branch will pay local bills (power, water etc), keeping the entire remainder for whatever purpose they wish. Hopefully when that happens it will wake some (although it wont be many) but to be clear this has not happened yet.
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does us Bethel Rachel oily racially reflect the publishers in us
by poopie inyour thoghts racially not oily
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Amizades
by OportoGirl inboa tarde, sera que existem membros no forum que pertencam a congregacoes em portugal?
procuro novas amizades, edificantes e verdadeiras.
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mais aqui falam Inglês, mas é um grupo grande, por isso nunca se sabe! as boas-vindas e desejo-lhe tudo de melhor -
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"This Generation"-- New Light AGAIN
by FusionTheism innew "jesus--the way" book, pages 258-259: .
"truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.matthew 24:32-34. thus, when his disciples see the many different features of the sign being fulfilled, they should realize that the end is near.".
so now "this generation" is simply the disciples who see all the many different features of the sign?.
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_Morpheus
I can see that, cappy and OTWO. Especially with regard to printing things generically so as to allow for future changes which is sort of my point. If they believed the overlapping thing was long term why not print it there...? Instead its gone from both the insight book and the revised greatest man book. I cant help but feel this signals a change is imminent, although i freely admit that there is some wishful thinking on my part thrown in...