Indeed. We dont even have to theorize about his abilities as creator with regard to these things. The fair tale of hezikiah where the desert god is said to have killed 144,000 asyrians without a sound. Or when he is said to have killed all the first borns egypt in one night without a sound. Those events make the claim that he can and did terminate huge numbers of people both selectively and immediately. The flood was a waste.
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Return of the Dub (plus surprise guest)
by TerryWalstrom inreturn of the dub (plus surprise guest)dealing with just one frisky, bright-eyed jehovah’s witness is a handful.one on one is manageable.
two jw’s is more like juggling chainsaws or french kissing alligators.i had a return visit the other day and now, the jw was returning the 2nd time, but with another dub.what would my strategy be?
that’s how the day was spent.
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Return of the Dub (plus surprise guest)
by TerryWalstrom inreturn of the dub (plus surprise guest)dealing with just one frisky, bright-eyed jehovah’s witness is a handful.one on one is manageable.
two jw’s is more like juggling chainsaws or french kissing alligators.i had a return visit the other day and now, the jw was returning the 2nd time, but with another dub.what would my strategy be?
that’s how the day was spent.
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_Morpheus
Its never a waste of time to do something positive.
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Fight of Gods - New video game
by ironsnake656 ini just found this hilarious video game released in taiwan like street fighter where you choose gods of ancient religions like anubis, atenea, sif, buda, odin, and guess what... jesus christ!!!
hadookens with nails!!!
bad that is not like mortal kombat with fatalities.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=gzcqkbbcw1q.
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Lol wow sure to offend everyone.. does mohamed have little girls as allies?
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Co-Ordinator of BOE Secretly Putting His DF'd Daughter First
by pale.emperor inlong story short, a friend of mine around the same age as me is df'd.
she's from another city.
we met up a few months ago with other exjws.
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Also what pale said.
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Co-Ordinator of BOE Secretly Putting His DF'd Daughter First
by pale.emperor inlong story short, a friend of mine around the same age as me is df'd.
she's from another city.
we met up a few months ago with other exjws.
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May as well post the relevant ks book pages as well....
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Return of the Dub (plus surprise guest)
by TerryWalstrom inreturn of the dub (plus surprise guest)dealing with just one frisky, bright-eyed jehovah’s witness is a handful.one on one is manageable.
two jw’s is more like juggling chainsaws or french kissing alligators.i had a return visit the other day and now, the jw was returning the 2nd time, but with another dub.what would my strategy be?
that’s how the day was spent.
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Well played terry. I wouldnt think you would see them again. The used car salesman will no doubt dissuade earl from coming back but id dollars to doughnuts that you made him think!
as an aside the flood thing seems fairly easy to counter. Noah and his children were still imperfect. Sin continued. The dubbies new world will eliminate that, although by their own story telling there will stilk be yet another great cleans when satan is let loose again after the 1000 years. Seems like some will always not like gods way and his answer always is the same
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Co-Ordinator of BOE Secretly Putting His DF'd Daughter First
by pale.emperor inlong story short, a friend of mine around the same age as me is df'd.
she's from another city.
we met up a few months ago with other exjws.
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Wow man im so sorry... that is an awful story.
To answer your question, yes the elder would be removed if it came out, at least strictly by wt standards. If that body is liberal maybe they look the other way and give it a pass as her being destitute and therefore its ok. I dont know her situation in detail and what the elder in question may be able to point to... and i think we all have an idea as to whether or not she will be “encouraged” to go to meetings... of course she will. And threatened with being out out if she dosent. And manipulated emotionally because she will be happy to be home. And it sounds like she was lonely also (we all have the need for friends). Shes in a terrible spot... just be her friend and offer whatever support you can.
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Unacknowledged!
by Awakenednow inso...i watched the new netflix movie, "uncknowledged" by dr steven greer today fierce hearing to dj's discussing it on the radio, minds blown.
it makes a strong case for ufo's and totally screws up jw doctrine about the earth having the only intelligent life in the universe, as it is where the issue of universal sovereignty is played out and decided....the gb will need to do some fast talking.
it will be fascinating to blow some jw minds with this.
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After seing this thread yesterday i figured i would watch and see what i thought, so here is my take....
there was lot in that video that made my bullshit detector go crazy. For example, time after time in the video peoples personal statments of belief were offered as “proof” of alien life. I dont care any more if lord admerial jerk off belives in alien life than if jimmy bob down at the walmart does. Its proof of nothing for a random person to express belief. Much of the movie was centered around people who have some air of crediblity offering their personal view in an attempt to sway opinion.
Another thing that was offered as “proof” over and over were unverifiable statments of things said decades ago. Its all well and good but without any corroboration its pointless and hearsay at best. The most egregious example was a supposed death bed quote from wernher von braun warning about false flags operations that would culminate in false flag attacks by aliens. Seriously? A very convient and far too accurate death bed quote from a person who wouldnt have been in a position to have that information in the first place. Bullshit meter is pegged out on that one.
then he spends an inordinate amount of time on free energy. Free energy is the ultimate mcguffin. He sprinkles in some tesla (a fabled genuis who was also a legendary liar) and some anti big oil propaganda just to make sure we hate the right people enough to chase his mcguffin. He only half ass tries to razzle dazzle with some sudo science bullshit ,and by the way, he throws in some useless clips of tv news talking about a guy who built a long ago debunked “water engine” which has absolutely nothing to do with his supposed zero point alien energy source but because it makes it look like big oil kills people to cover up alternative energy sources we are supposed to lap it up.
Then there is the supposed nuclear connection. The idea that multiple ufo crashes occured in the early 40’s... seriously? These beings can master interstellar space travel but crash here all the time??? Multiple accounts relating to how advanced there space ships compared to anything we have but they apparently crash all the damn time? Crazy ass stories about alien ships disarming nukes being sent into space... but not any other satalites??? Jesus the level of shit i was asked to swallow was unreal. It was like demon stories from old watchtowers.
So thats where my bullshit meter was going crazy.... where i was a bit more interested and, while just as skeptical, more convinced were peoples personal (first hand) experiences and accounts. Those things have to be examined in light of the people who offer them. In those cases i do care a bit more if an FAA sections chief says something than if Billy bob from the walmart says it... some of those first hand accounts were compelling... but then ive heard some of them before and was convinced that they were telling the truth as they saw it so im not sure what i get from hearing more...
Bottom line for me: when i strip away the obvious bullshit and emotionally charged crap i got some very interesting first hand accounts , unfortunately nothing that can be corroborated. I WANT to believe and do, on some level, believe... in something... i guess? But this movie offered not a damn thing in the way of solid evidance to let me hang my hat on.
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REVEALED: The number of Bethelites over the years
by darkspilver inin response to this thread.
i've put forward the argument that i believe that the 'organization' is financially effectively bleeding itself dry - it is actually financially imploding.. i believe that over the last 45 or so years, in particular, it has evolved from a relatively 'lean machine' into what is now a huge unwieldy organization.
as an organization grows i would expect increased efficiency through by both economies of scale, and advances in technology.. how has the watchtower organization fared?....
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Interesting question on the support staff for the support staff... when i was in the laundry in the early 90’s there were over 100 full time laundry people and housekeepers came once a week for a rotation helping to fold clothes. Many of the staff were sisters, people they needed fo find work for. I cant specifically comment on the ratio of support to actual needed staff but it seemed like a lot of the muckety mucks wanted a comfortable life. Their jobs wernt particuarly hard and yet they had 3 meals cooked and prepared every day, their rooms cleaned and their laundry done. It was a hellva good life for the upper echelon who worked office jobs 9 hours a day. For those of us who not only performed their menial labor 9 hours a day, worked Saturdays did dish duties watchman duties and as laundry guys did extra chute duties too it wasnt so comfy.
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Government grabbing worship places? Surely not.
by punkofnice ina local jobo recently told me (or told me recently), that the uk government will seize unused kingdom halls and other churches if they are empty or not used.. the jobo said this was a new thing from the uk government.
the jobo was vague about it and couldn't verify their source.. now, i know russia is doing stuff but i've not heard anything about the uk.
it doesn't sound plausible.. i've searched the tinternet but can't find anything suggesting this.. i'm sure it's just utter jobo propaganda scare tactics and rumours.
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I cannot speak on the UK but here in the USA we call it ‘urban blight’ and there are indeed programs to encourage revitalization in areas where buildings have been abandoned. Be it legal seizure because of unpaid taxes or money to encourage renovation or variations of those themes nobody wants to see abandonded property. However thats across the board, no matter who owns the property or its zoning and its entirely legal and known. This sounds like nonsense.