*yawn*
when people post videos of themselves being jackasses there is but one conclusion to draw.
spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
*yawn*
when people post videos of themselves being jackasses there is but one conclusion to draw.
so i was recently reading the reasons for disfellowshipping as listed in shepherd the flock of god.
the handbook is available online here: https://thetruthofjehowaswittness.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/jehovas-vitner.pdf.. on page 59, point #4, it lists attempted suicide as a reason for disfellowshipping.
has it ever been removed?
@dreary, you are 100% wrong. It indeed a df’ing offense in and of itself, with no other sin involved. Please consider the possible bad results from spreading innacurate information. People ask these questions at times hypothetically but at times its a significant question that has real world impact.
Clearly attempted suicide can result in a jc being formed. Anytime a jc is formed df’ing is a possible result.
spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
Exactly. You dont care about results. You dont care about how those being spoken to receive the message. Its about some sort of stupid “justice”, seeing jws tactics thrown back at them, at least in your mind.
heres the problem: your analogy is flawed. It would only be analogous be if the dumbasses knocked on the door of the KH and offered a presentation.
Now multiply your feelings about your flawed analogy by 1000 and you begin to understand the selfish motives of the dumbasses who recorded themselves disrupting the meeting. It was never about the exposing the org.
spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
Really? How do you judge their intentions?
spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
You know whats telling.... not once has anyone said they woke up to the truth about the truth over a protest like this. Not once. Not evem the dumb asses protesting woke up because of a protest.
There is a zero percent documented success rate.
It dosent work. Stop pretending its selfless and call it what it is: selfish bullshit. And fuck everyone who does it.
spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
For fuck sake, NOBODY WAS STARTED TO THINKING OVER IT! The only ideas they are thinking about are how people go crazy when they leave the org. It was worse than pointless, it was counter productive. It reinforced negative sterotypes. Think beyond yourselves.
spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
@kite- i would never speak for you or anyone else but i have had unfortunate exposure to these types of self important apostate clowns and that seemed to be what you were describing. Its also a long and (to me) now tedious debate on this forum. The self styled leaders of the apostate activist movement love to self aggrandize and brag. Others (myself included) try to reason and explain the stupidity of their actions but the endorphin rush of being important in their own eyes overrides their ability to reason.
@alfred- its not simply a matter of ‘if it makes them feel better than no harm’. Those asshats terrorized a congregation and reinforced the bad image of those that leave the org. They behaved as stupidly and vile as the org says apostates do. Not only did they accomplish nothing in helping people see the real truth they did EXACTLY the opposite. They care nothing for those in the org, they care nothing about exposing the real truth to those that COULD be helped. They care only about feeding their own petty desire for some half assed sense of vengance or some rediculious notion of “justice”. They are fucking morons who deserved to have their collective asses kicked and thrown out of the hall, arrested for disturbing the peace and carrying around criminal records for the rest of their lives.
spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
Women who are raped and df’d for it..? Seriously? Its that sort of lunatic ranting that highlights so called apostate activism and why so many wont involve themselves.
I have said before and will say again, i saw several of these marchs at bethel. It didnt phase me in the least. I’ve seen dozens of these over the years at what were then called district conventions in richmond va and reading PA. Never made the least impact.
Its all self aggrandizing shit. Its designed to make the ACTIVIST feel important. Its designed to make the ACTIVIST feel better. Making jackasses of yourself during a church service is in no way about helping the congregants see the nature of their cult and the jackasses who did it damn well know it. It was recorded and thrown on the internet to make themselves self styled apostate heros.
I slow clap for you. Congratulations.
I hope you feel better now.
christian legal fellowship (clf) seems to have a new member.
the jehovah’s witnesses aka the watchtower.the membership list does not seem to be public, but i am sure that with enough inquiries from the public -that clog the arteries of their email server- we can get at the truth.just like the watchtower affiliation with the un, it seems now the watchtower has affiliated with trinitarians.the clf brings legal action on behalf of the tower.. .
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57503f9022482e2aa29ab3af/t/59d6a60ba8b2b09201dd26bf/1507239436646/clf+-+wall+-+intervener+factum.pdfhttp://www.christianlegalfellowship.org/blog/2017/8/10/clf-applies-to-intervene-at-scc-in-religious-autonomy-caseto be a member with the clf, the watchtower... "must be able and willing to sign the statement of faith...."http://www.christianlegalfellowship.org/new-page/see item 2 of the clf "statement of faith"http://www.christianlegalfellowship.org/statement-of-faith2 "there is one god, eternally existent in three persons: father, son and holy spirit.".
Sigh.... let me try this in a simplified way..
swaggert didnt ask the wt for help. He didn't know them on any personal level and most importantly he couldnt have stopped the wt from filing by any means.
The wt didnt give a damn about jimmy nor did they ask his permission to file amicus. Jimmy could have rotted in hell for they cared. They understood the legal ramifications for themselves and filed on their own behalf. This is not a difficult concept.
Similarly, the wt did not ask for this amicus to be filed in the current case. They could not have stopped it even if they knew about it, which they may not have.... there is absolutely no relationship between these parties beyond a comon legal standing.
Sigh... never mind. Its all a big conspiracy. Somebody run and tell the press! Theres a court case involving the wt and some other random sudo religious legal group thinks it impact them! Tell slim the wt is finally folding! I call dips on the sound system from my local hall, you guys can have everything else.
so i was recently reading the reasons for disfellowshipping as listed in shepherd the flock of god.
the handbook is available online here: https://thetruthofjehowaswittness.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/jehovas-vitner.pdf.. on page 59, point #4, it lists attempted suicide as a reason for disfellowshipping.
has it ever been removed?
Correct the two are the same. If a JC is formed DF’ing is always a possibility.
And no, suicide has NOT been removed as a reaosn for df’ing. There is direction to call the branch before proceding with that comitte