_Morpheus

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  How to make money in the good ol' U.S A.

  by The Fall Guy in

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  russell & rutherfraud knew they were on to a winner when they started and then re-branded their cult business empire.

  businessmen first, charlatans second - nothing more, nothing less.

  i can't get my around such institutions being allowed to keep their finances secret.

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  And lisa, thats the thing for me... LOCALLY jw’s account for every penny. I did the accounts for years and never a dime that went missing... BUT (and theres always a but) thats only locally. The big chunk donations to the branch are what are never accounted for.

  So we know every detail (at least congregation memebers do) of local kh expenses. Electric, gas, phone etc but the branch..? All hidden. Tens of thousands a month rolling in from local halls, never accounted for. Tens of thousands a week from assemblies.... gone. Never accounted for. Billions from property sales... gone. Never accounted for.

  Show me the money!!!!
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  Is this life all there is?

  by Fisherman in

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  what do you sincerely think?

  do you nurture any hope?.

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  Fisherman said

  ”Has anyone at least sincerely tried to ask the horse directly to talk? Just curious.”

  dear god man you dont know the can of worms you are opening. Theres a whole group of voice hearers who started their own forum. They will be glad to tell you allllllllllllllll about talking to him
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  How to make money in the good ol' U.S A.

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  russell & rutherfraud knew they were on to a winner when they started and then re-branded their cult business empire.

  businessmen first, charlatans second - nothing more, nothing less.

  i can't get my around such institutions being allowed to keep their finances secret.

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  Interestingly, while largely atheist, i am in favor of reedom of religion. I also absolutely think if they want tax exempt status they should be required to publish finances. Its a fair trade off. Im not sure what the rationale is behind them being allowed to keep them private. Strickly on a selfish level it would end the onslaught of ‘the org is doomed!’ Threads ;)
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  Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

  for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

  the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

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  Did you actually read peoples view points? Many have explained in detail that yes they understand the concept. They see and acknowledge what amounts to simple preorders.

  Did you see the remarks regarding the problems with the $150 contribution? Do you have any counter points to that?
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  My final topic

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noted that the irritable part of me got the better of me when posting about j f rutherford.

  i acknowledge that a few on here have pointed out flaws in my reasoning and the way i reason.

  and i agree with them.

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  I have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

  
  
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  Royal Australian Commission - Recomendations for Jehovahs Witnesses

  by curiousconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the report is finally out.......... ————————.

  recommendations to the jehovah’s witness organisation.

  recommendation 16.27. the jehovah’s witness organisation should abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.28. the jehovah’s witness organisation on should revise its policies so that women are involved in processes related to invesation and determining allegations of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.29. the jehovah’s witness organisation should no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassocia on is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse..

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  So far it dosent seem particularly serious at all. some action would lend credence your claims of seriousness. I’ll be waiting right here for that along with the collapse of the org slim predicts. They will both happen around the same time.
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  Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

  for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

  the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

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  No, he will issue a refund if he dosent use your story.

  *edited to add- dosent make it less slimy
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  Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

  for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

  the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

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  Upon further review let me clarify: its lazy and a bit untoward to start a go fund me style page for writing a book (just write it) however the initial levels of supprt are not what makes him slimy. They are basically just preorders and him promising to autograph your copy. Thats fair enough, a preorder and a signed copy for 10 bucks. The slimy part is the 150 for MAYBE getting your story in the book and, at best, one direct quote. What a damn troll trying to take advantage of a group of people whom he know dont feel as if they have their voices heard. Hes essentially saying “i will make sure your voice is heard!.... for a price”. Reminds me of every religious leader in history, promising to make sure god hears you... for a price... and only through him can you be heard.

  Cedars, a very special “fuck you”, from me to you.
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  Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

  for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

  the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

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  Holy shit.. i wasnt going to click on the link until someone said it was cedars idea. I didnt want to believe it... but damn if it isnt so. What a slimy son of a bitch.
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  Royal Australian Commission - Recomendations for Jehovahs Witnesses

  by curiousconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the report is finally out.......... ————————.

  recommendations to the jehovah’s witness organisation.

  recommendation 16.27. the jehovah’s witness organisation should abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.28. the jehovah’s witness organisation on should revise its policies so that women are involved in processes related to invesation and determining allegations of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.29. the jehovah’s witness organisation should no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassocia on is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse..

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  _Morpheus

  Freddo, if any good came of the ARC it was people being able to give voice to their abuse and perhaps help someone else do the same or maybe prevent it from happening to someone else in some way, and in that regard it was certainly worthwhile, without any qualification.

  Some seem to feel that the ARC would prompt major changes in the cult, and i can bump at least 5 threads that support that view. From that perspective the ARC was and remains a toothless dog. Unless the jw’s are mandiated to change they simply will not. The ARC had no legal authority to force change and so no change will happen. Toothless.