I watched the video citing ten changes that were good... i agreed with them all. I didnt wholesale dislike them all. A few were annoying (like the rotj band scene) but for the most part they were good... except han shooting first.
_Morpheus
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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Lol saying “our generation” wasnt an answer, just for the record ;)
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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Ah you didnt answer, npd. Under 30, yes or no
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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Lol i know all to well... my 20 something son swears by the prequels and its fine... he loves star wars in his own way and identified with young ankin who close in age to him. His friends are all the same. Its fine, but they simply arnt master pieces.
I will definitely check out that video when i get home from work. I dont hate the changes whole sale, really the han thing is my major hang up
as an aside, there is fan theory that actually makes the prequels watchable if not even a little entertaining.. consider: obi wan and padime had an affair in between pm and attack of the clones. Theres plenty of evidamce to go along with it and goes a long long way toward making anikins jealousy and anger with obiwan more understandable.
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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Lol oh nbd.... now your being purposefully snobbish and ignorant. My first post laid out masterful analysis on where the prequels fell short, plot wise. We can go deeper but im afraid you’d drown. We can talk scene for scene if youd like... lucas is so easy to pick apart its tragic... but then i realized some time ago those who saw the prequals as kids romanticize them blindly. Id bet dollars to pesos your of that group. Nobody who saw them with mature eyes can be impartially positive. Fess up... your 30 and under arnt you.
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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Yea sorry/not sorry dog i was articulate regarding why you were wrong on yoda i wont waste winsom words the abomination that is jar jar.
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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As an aside ttddtt, the hand/jabba scene was original. Lucas didnt have a jabba character in mind so he shot it with a human. Thats why han walks around jabba and “steps” on his tale so awkwardly, for whatever thats worth.
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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_Morpheus
The force awaken was garbage. It was a retelling of the original with none of the charm. Instead of a death star we get a death planet? Jesus kill me now. So god awful.
Last jedi was at least an honest attempt to progress the story for the first time in 30 years. They had better source material they could have drawn on from the book by timothy zane but it wasnt as crappy as the force awakens.. i guess....
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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Out of place??? He was the wise old master feeling out the potential student. Remember lukes words: he was seeking out a great warrior. naive and foolish. As yoda had to quickly remind him, wars do not make one great. It was zen teachings all over the place.
Fucking jar jar binks had NO reason or purpose in the plot. He was bumbling idiot that served no purpose beyond lame comedy.
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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.
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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .
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_Morpheus
Let me first say im also a fan of the original two movies. Greatness.
There are a ton of problems with the prequals but heres the biggest, imho: the original two (new hope and empire) followed a common thread, had a common plot. You can distill it in whatever way suits you but it was essentially a space soap opera set to the themes of meiji era japan. That is the era tha saw the end of the samurai and the shogun rule and all the entire system of governance commerce etc etc it was entire cultural revolution.
The jedi were simply “samurai” and the force was “ki” or whatever other eastern religious energy force you want to substitute. He wove in themes of master/student (obi wan/luke) from eastern martial arts tradition, the lost student (vader) seeking to kill his former “good” master, the redemption of the master by training a new “good” apprentice (remember in a new hope there was no emperor) on on it goes, but you get the point.
the problem with the everything done after empire was that it lost that thread. He didnt progress the story and lost any hope of continuity with his own themes. The prequels did NOTHING to show us the good student turning evil and gave no sense of the students true strength as he slid toward evil. It was all so poorly written and had lost sight of the the prequel story, the student/teacher souring relationship. We got dog shit filled with special effects and we were supposed to be so enthralled that we overlooked the stench.
Redoing the special effects in new hope wasnt offensive... until he had han shoot first. That altered the story and character FOR NO REASON!!! Greedo threatened to take the falcon. Han shot without remorse. Its who he was. A smuggler trying to make a living under a domineering empire. Fuckin greedo shot first my ass. And it looks so awful. The original scene was magic. He leans forwad and “boom”! Greedo dead under the table. Greatness.