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  What Can A Member Of The Governing Body Get Disfellowshipped For?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i don't think any member of the elite gb can be disfellowshipped while in the office, i think they need to be removed first from being part of the elite ruling class ceos and then latter be df'd if the need be.

  i'm of this opinion from what happened to raymond franz, chitty, and greeenlees.. ray, was not df'd for apostacy while on the gb, he was first removed from office given a $10,000 severance package and booted out of bethel, latter he was seen eating with a member that left the clutches of the organization to which the wt corporation put into effect that eating a meal with a df'd or disassociated member is in itself a df'n offence.. i think the watchtower will be very reluctant to df any former gb member because they can do so much damage if they go public like ray franz did..

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  Or maybe they refuse to release it because its a violation individuals rights and sets them up for defamation law suits... na cant be...
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  Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

  so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

  so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

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  And there we have it. Now we have officially crossed the over into vauge baseless accusations against a specific person. I love how you didnt say specifically that he WAS a pedo and using the two witness rule to hide, you said you think he would.... but in so doing implied he is.

  *slow clap* you resisted for 48 hours.
  
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  Cofty--Can You Help This JW Lady?

  by Atlantis in

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  cofty, this jw lady sent us a message with a question on a point she is trying to verify.. .

  her question: (isn't the watchtower teaching a form of "evolution" right now and my jw family just don't realize it?).

  hold on sandra, grampa (atlantis), says that (cofty) is pretty much an expert on evolution and can answer your question more accurately than we can.

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  All good responses, just to clarify my initial answer, i commented only on the specific example addressed, humans growing to perfection as it relates to evolution. It is not evolution in any sense, its a mere repairing of the human body.

  The other examples provided are all good and show some of the inconsistencies of those who believe in pure creationism.

  what phizzy says is correct regarding the wt position. they take the stance that adaptation happens within species and that there is room for some variation within “kinds”. Consider dogs and all the changes and variation through selective breeding. They would point out they are still dogs in the end. Its their way of acknowledging the obvious (selective breeding effects offspring over time) without giving into full on evolution and potentially offending their desert god.
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  Signs You Would Like To See At Watchtower Convention

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i think gb loesch has made some pretty bold statements that could be put in quotes with his picture attached could be a real killer!.

  believe and obey only the faithful slave, don't believe any negative comment about us in the press believe only us.. google: child molestation watchtower bible and tract society, klick on wikki.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse.

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  “Going out of business”
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  Oh brother.... you hate me, dont you? Slim saw this thread and passed out from excitement. Hes got 10k words written already. Sigh...

  ok that aside, ive long said some for of tithing will come round. They wont call it that, but thats what it will be.. the congregation perpetual mortgage scam is a form of tithe as it is.
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  Cofty--Can You Help This JW Lady?

  by Atlantis in

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  cofty, this jw lady sent us a message with a question on a point she is trying to verify.. .

  her question: (isn't the watchtower teaching a form of "evolution" right now and my jw family just don't realize it?).

  hold on sandra, grampa (atlantis), says that (cofty) is pretty much an expert on evolution and can answer your question more accurately than we can.

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  I apologize to cofty in advance for fielding this, but this a pretty simple one...

  the short answer is no. The wt org’s teaching is, in effect, that we all are now ‘damaged goods’, so to speak. We are like a car with a mechanical problem. In humans we call that problem “sin”. In the new world humans dont evolve into anything more complex nor do they change into anything else, the machine (human bidy) is simply repaired and restored to proper function, in the same way a repaired car hasnt evolved into something else, its simply been restored to proper function.

  As always, i dont buy it, im just clarifying the teaching so it can be properly debunked.
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  Kingdom Hall "sale" - new light!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  in a town called stevenston on the west coast of scotland, the kingdom hall was closed down approximately 6 months ago and the congregation (named kilbirnie) was assigned to use the kingdom hall of the nearby irvine congregation.. according to an ldc source at mill hill, the kilbirnie kh is scheduled for a refurbishment!

  the org boots out the congregation and leaves their kh redundant for 6 months?????????

  good planning, ldc.

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  😂😂 slim has already noted it as one of the seven signs of the wt collapse
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  Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
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  i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

  so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

  so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

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  If there was a Russian spy in the GB I would be incredibly surprised because Russian spies are not common

  https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2017/08/07/more-russian-spies-in-us-than-anytime-in-past-15-years-report/amp/

  you were saying?
  
  
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  Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

  so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

  so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

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  Well either one, but i meant a russian spy on the gb. Like tight pants tony is part of the party....

  lets not get lost on details. Lets not feed steam to the crazy train.
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  Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

  so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

  so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

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  Really, oh slim one? More reasonable to suspect a pedo is being hidden on the gb than a russian spy..? Have you noted the state of russian/jw relations recently? I think your greatly underestimating the chances.

  The point is the op is unfounded. Its not even being suggested or attributed to a specific member of the gb, its simply being asked “is it possible”.... again, of course its “possible”. Its possible the earth will crash into the sun today... by asking the question “is it possible” brokeback was trying to drum up the crazies and the rabid foaming at the mouth group to get all whipped up into a frenzy of crazy and the board can bask in unbound speculation and hate in the wake of the A&E show.

  instead of indulging the crazy train perhaps there could be some sanity