what are you thoughts on this?.
i find this alarming because jones was very outspoken and had great guests on discussing topics most other media outlets wouldn't go near.. the fact that many have restricted him access to their medium what does this say on our freedoms of speech?.
His site is getting TONS of traffic and he has gained 100k’s of followers on twitter, who didnt ban him. This is how it works. As popular as he is, he has the ablity to stay relevant. It hurts those who are not as popular when they are muted, but if this hurts fbook and other platforms (as it will to some degree) they may bot be so willing in the future to take similar action.
Money talks, everything else walks.
what are you thoughts on this?.
i find this alarming because jones was very outspoken and had great guests on discussing topics most other media outlets wouldn't go near.. the fact that many have restricted him access to their medium what does this say on our freedoms of speech?.
Mmm, no argument from me. Its very targeted and very specific to jones who many credit with getting trump elected (not accurate, in my view). This is clearly nonsense and they cant back it up or apply it consistantly... but that dosent change my view. Its their right. And its the right of those who dont agree to refuse to do business with them.
what are you thoughts on this?.
i find this alarming because jones was very outspoken and had great guests on discussing topics most other media outlets wouldn't go near.. the fact that many have restricted him access to their medium what does this say on our freedoms of speech?.
Yes, they are private companies but it seems they got together and decided to take this action collectively in response to the desire of elected officials.
Yep, kinda seems like collusion...
This is different than if a company just decided to ban someone because they violated site policy.
no it isnt, fortunately. Business have an absolute right to make those decisions and we as customers have the right to complain and take our business elsewhere. The political right owns talk radio... should radio stations be forced to give air time to left leaning hosts, even if the shows are unpopular and dont make money? I say no way. If Twitter and fb become unfriendly to so called conservative or right leaning voices then those users will leave. Thats freedom my friend. I would never trade it.
what the heck.. i couldn't believe it, norm brekkie and tom combs are still alive.. norm is so out of it he couldn't tell you what day of the week it was.. i talked to larry fisher he is gone mentally also.
he couldn't even remember when he went to bethel.. then i called up daryl christenson.
he wasn't so friendly.
Newboy is a former bethelite and has written a soon to be published book on his experiances. This thread is a good start
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5466622169972736/introduction-chapter-1-new-boy-inside-look-world-headquarters-jehovahs-witnesses
He apparently called today to speak to old friends and related the experiances above.
what are you thoughts on this?.
i find this alarming because jones was very outspoken and had great guests on discussing topics most other media outlets wouldn't go near.. the fact that many have restricted him access to their medium what does this say on our freedoms of speech?.
Discussing the constitution with regard to twitter, fb, apple podcast hosting etc, is pointless. The first amendment has NOTHING to do with private platforms, be it newspapers or modern tech portals.
That said, i wouldnt ever want any voice banned, even if it was commies.
Theres a huge difference, btw, between banning trolls and banning ideas you personally dont like. Trolls who show up and drop a few random curse words or show up and spam the forum with advertising are easy bans. Personally, i wouldnt want so called jw apologists banned. Let them speak and let us retort. Im in favor of debating ideas passionately, even stupid ass concepts like flat earth.
Banning jones is a huge mistake.
what the heck.. i couldn't believe it, norm brekkie and tom combs are still alive.. norm is so out of it he couldn't tell you what day of the week it was.. i talked to larry fisher he is gone mentally also.
he couldn't even remember when he went to bethel.. then i called up daryl christenson.
he wasn't so friendly.
When i saw the thread tittle i couldnt help but roll my eyes, another clown calls bethel and wants to cry foul when some operator wont confess that the gb keep goats chained up their room for sexual abuse....
then i realized it was you and i quickly decided to read the thread since you are reasonable and actually KNOW how bethel works...
so, my preamble aside, its sad to realize how much and how long some people have dedicated, and for nothing. It really comes home in a case like you cited where you call old friends and they are “out of it”, as you describe. I look back and see how i was on that path, although bethel itself showed me how bad an idea a career there was... still looking forward to the book, btw :)
two weeks ago mrs. add and myself was driving home from shopping on a side street when we came upon a man laying on his back with his arms spread out in a t formation.
with no one in site we pulled over our van to help this person.
mrs.add went for her phone to call 911 and i got out of the van to see what i could do.
Dont kick yourself, it has NOTHING to do with a jw upbringing. The reason it works is because many (most?) people want to help in an emergency or situation of perceived danger to someone else.
two weeks ago mrs. add and myself was driving home from shopping on a side street when we came upon a man laying on his back with his arms spread out in a t formation.
with no one in site we pulled over our van to help this person.
mrs.add went for her phone to call 911 and i got out of the van to see what i could do.
Let me add another variable.. its become a ploy for people to feign injury to draw in someone willing to help. They have even used infant car seats on the road side to draw people in... if it dosent seem right, if it feels weird, hang back and call the police.
figures from that latest 2-weekend convention in caridff (wales) reveal jw “growth” now in decline.
baptisms are discouragingly low (21, combined), and circuit overseers have been primed to deal with assemblies where there are no baptisms; see these leaked 2018 instructions:.
pdf summary: https://1drv.ms/b/s!arekzxkzlp8ybsl45pov7y6k26a.
In the "Wales online" they interviewed some particularly well educated Witnesses, including a New convert. One woman from a Welsh farming community said the singing prayers in Welsh makes her cry
A lot of North Wales congregations are assigned to the Liverpool Assembly.
That could be why the numbers are less in Cardiff.
ahhh i love finding the nuggets of truth hidden amongst the chaff.
from what i understand, a letter was read this past week in regards to congregation reassignments and that the elders want to meet with people at their homes to tell them where they have been reassigned.
obviously, this would be due to the merging and dissolution of congregations.
can anyone confirm this?.
Morph, one counter point. The last Pew survey indicated that the JWs in the US are getting old and continue to skew that way. Sure, you see plenty of young folks at some congregations, but there's a ton of grey hair or no hair out there.
If the doubters are correct, then why is the Borg making videos about how to behave when you are reassigned because your KH is gone?
Db, i appreciate you citing an actual source. Facts we deal with :)
i also quoted DD because the points are not unrelated.
One significant problem for the org that dosent get a lot of press is the lack of guys to handle the “man” designated work. The kh consolidation actually helps with that. Fewer congregations with more people = few men needed.
