Correct. There is a huge difference between a miraculous impregnation of a willing woman, whom the story says was engaged to be married , and the rape of a 9 year old.
_Morpheus
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ECHR Rules Against Free Speech
by cofty inthe european court of human rights ruled against an austrian woman who claimed calling the prophet muhammad a pedophile was protected by free speech.
... the woman in 2009 held two seminars entitled "basic information on islam," during which she likened muhammad's marriage to a six-year-old girl, aisha, to pedophilia.. the marriage according to islamic tradition was consummated when aisha was nine and muhammad was around 50. aisha was the daughter of muhammad's best friend and the first caliph, abu bakr.. the court cited the austrian women stating during the seminar that muhammad "liked to do it with children" and "... a 56-year-old and a six-year-old?
... what do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?".
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ECHR Rules Against Free Speech
by cofty inthe european court of human rights ruled against an austrian woman who claimed calling the prophet muhammad a pedophile was protected by free speech.
... the woman in 2009 held two seminars entitled "basic information on islam," during which she likened muhammad's marriage to a six-year-old girl, aisha, to pedophilia.. the marriage according to islamic tradition was consummated when aisha was nine and muhammad was around 50. aisha was the daughter of muhammad's best friend and the first caliph, abu bakr.. the court cited the austrian women stating during the seminar that muhammad "liked to do it with children" and "... a 56-year-old and a six-year-old?
... what do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?".
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_Morpheus
Muhammed is in good company............The Christian God is a paedophile too.....he got Mary pregnant at age 13/14 with his son.........LOL
hmmm... interesting that you see some sort of comparability. Lets look at the stories, purely at face value.
god almighty miraculously (meaning no sex involved) impregnates a willing virgin.
Mohamed rapes a 9 year old.
But you see these stories as equivalent?
lets take the stories with a dose of common sense and see if we can make them more relatable.
At worst, a young jewish girl (where you assigned 13/14 as an age is beyond me. The bible mever says. You are assuming based on tradition) ends up pregnant and says “i dont know how!” As a cover up.
Best case its an obvious fairy tale based on similar greek fairy tales for their demi gods and it never happened any more than the births of other greek demigods.
best case with mohamed... at 50 or so years old he raped a 9 year old and called her his wife.
There is no equivalency.
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Business class for Governing Body
by Sergey Antonov inhello everyone!
does anyone have any confirmation that the governing body uses the business class for its flights?.
also interesting is the information about the hours that were on the hand of one of the members of the governing body..
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_Morpheus
This has already been discussed in detail, including some asinine statements that business class is better than first class. It is not. It is a class of seating between coach and first class.
Of course they fly business class. Do you think they would fly coach? They are heads of a mid size corporation. As rub pointed out, with all the miles they fly, it would be insane to think otherwise.
As for “the hours on their hands”, i have no idea whats that about. Any details you could share would be helpful in formulating a response
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ECHR Rules Against Free Speech
by cofty inthe european court of human rights ruled against an austrian woman who claimed calling the prophet muhammad a pedophile was protected by free speech.
... the woman in 2009 held two seminars entitled "basic information on islam," during which she likened muhammad's marriage to a six-year-old girl, aisha, to pedophilia.. the marriage according to islamic tradition was consummated when aisha was nine and muhammad was around 50. aisha was the daughter of muhammad's best friend and the first caliph, abu bakr.. the court cited the austrian women stating during the seminar that muhammad "liked to do it with children" and "... a 56-year-old and a six-year-old?
... what do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?".
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_Morpheus
your answer didnt add up for me cofty, but i had to think back a little. Its so called “hate speech” laws that im thinking of, but in the end, its the same result. Those laws are being used to sue and/or imprison people who speak ill of ‘the prophet’.
Followers of jesus, while obnoxious at times, dont seem to seek such protection so im not sure why you referenced that particular fellow in your answer. In fact, followers of jesus are not offered such protections so, upon further review, im even more confused as to your reference...
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ECHR Rules Against Free Speech
by cofty inthe european court of human rights ruled against an austrian woman who claimed calling the prophet muhammad a pedophile was protected by free speech.
... the woman in 2009 held two seminars entitled "basic information on islam," during which she likened muhammad's marriage to a six-year-old girl, aisha, to pedophilia.. the marriage according to islamic tradition was consummated when aisha was nine and muhammad was around 50. aisha was the daughter of muhammad's best friend and the first caliph, abu bakr.. the court cited the austrian women stating during the seminar that muhammad "liked to do it with children" and "... a 56-year-old and a six-year-old?
... what do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?".
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_Morpheus
Lol no they were nazis, of course, but britain and eruope in general seem far too accommodating to the followers of mohamed. I failed to note that it was austria. I saw ECHR and instantly thought britain. My fault for skimming.
On a related note, i recall Britain having similar anti defamation laws, correct? Wouldnt this ruling uphold those laws?
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ECHR Rules Against Free Speech
by cofty inthe european court of human rights ruled against an austrian woman who claimed calling the prophet muhammad a pedophile was protected by free speech.
... the woman in 2009 held two seminars entitled "basic information on islam," during which she likened muhammad's marriage to a six-year-old girl, aisha, to pedophilia.. the marriage according to islamic tradition was consummated when aisha was nine and muhammad was around 50. aisha was the daughter of muhammad's best friend and the first caliph, abu bakr.. the court cited the austrian women stating during the seminar that muhammad "liked to do it with children" and "... a 56-year-old and a six-year-old?
... what do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?".
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_Morpheus
Cofty, Thats such a cultural shift from the nation that stood up to the nazis. Its insane.
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ECHR Rules Against Free Speech
by cofty inthe european court of human rights ruled against an austrian woman who claimed calling the prophet muhammad a pedophile was protected by free speech.
... the woman in 2009 held two seminars entitled "basic information on islam," during which she likened muhammad's marriage to a six-year-old girl, aisha, to pedophilia.. the marriage according to islamic tradition was consummated when aisha was nine and muhammad was around 50. aisha was the daughter of muhammad's best friend and the first caliph, abu bakr.. the court cited the austrian women stating during the seminar that muhammad "liked to do it with children" and "... a 56-year-old and a six-year-old?
... what do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?".
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_Morpheus
Wow! Why is europe so intent on kissing the mohammedans collective ass?
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I've Never seen anything quite like this interview
by TerryWalstrom inthis interview had me glued in place because i've never seen a q&a go quite like this.i'd love to hear your thoughts on it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxpgfekem_s&t=973s
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_Morpheus
I tell ya what i thought was interestong from the break was the young man he was interviewing. He demonstrated many hallmarks that witnesses shows woth regard to indoctrination. In the end the interviewer lead him back around and tried to connect dots for him on contradictory viewpoints, and it was a interesting listen start to finish, but that initial exchange with his description of his “calling” and early preaching was a crazy listen.
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List of ALL Rape Quotes from the Watchtower!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower, june 1st 1968 issue, pages 347-350:.
awake!, july 8th 1980 issue, pages 5-6:.
resisting rapists.
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_Morpheus
Given that this thread is 16 years old and contains quotes more than 45 years old, i decided to check the current quotes in the elders txt book. They are as follows
The real problem is not whether or they require or advise a woman to scream in a rape situation( thats not been the case for sometime). The most signifigant problem, from my point of view, is that its not their damn business. They are a church, not a police force. If a woman was raped by a stranger the only words required are “im so sorry sister, do you want me to be with you when you call the police?” If she makes the claim regarding an acquaintance or someone she knows more personally (which is often the case), the correct response is “im so sorry sister, do you want me to be with you when you call the police?” They are neither empowered nor qualified to deal with the situation. Stay the hell out of it.
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Jahobies wifflebats, anchovies wonderbots, Harmonies wildebeasts
by Diogenesister inpoints out how ludicrous it is to base your religion on the name of god....when you don't actually know the name of god.. also...love the caricatures of russell and rutherford!.
https://youtu.be/__7t_bgi8oo .
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_Morpheus
I will do you one better... it was so important he let it get removed from his holy book that he was “protecting”