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  so, what ARE society 'approved' jobs anyway?

  by sowhatnow in

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  obviously they feel a window washer job is a job anyone can do anywhere in he world .

  and makes great money, yea right.. so what are all those 'approved jobs?'.

  add to the list of any and all building skills, cleaning type jobs.

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  i sense a lot of disdain for labor intensive jobs on this site

  I don't think someone here have disdain for these jobs. But have a disdain for the WT-view on these jobs like the only one WT-approved..
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  so, what ARE society 'approved' jobs anyway?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  obviously they feel a window washer job is a job anyone can do anywhere in he world .

  and makes great money, yea right.. so what are all those 'approved jobs?'.

  add to the list of any and all building skills, cleaning type jobs.

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  coalize

  Removal man, but dress in polo shirt, trousers with pants and loafer
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  The fight about the corpse of Moses

  by coalize in

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  the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.

  the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.

  (read jude 9.

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  WTBTS is unable to come up with any logical explanation without a total revision of it's understanding of death (the spirit/soul), heaven and other places of spiritual abode.

  To not have to handle with this kind of revision, i'm sure they will prefer to put an issue on the list of the canonical books they accept, than to change something in their dogma. Like that they'll be able to explain, why Paul is talking about Jannes and Jambres too..

  But they can't... Because if they accept new books or taking away another from the WTBTS-agreed-canonical-books, then they will be forced to change their dogma by the way!

  They will continue to juggle standing on an egg...
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  a dude explains the entire bible--from facebook

  by bigmac in

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  coalize

  Excellent...

  For the french-speaking people who want to share that, I already made the translation... You don't have to do it again :

  La Bible. Version Courte.
  
  GENESE
  
  Dieu : Très bien, vous deux, ne faîtes pas une seule chose. Pour le reste, amusez-vous.
  Adam et Eve : Okay
  Satan : Vous devriez faire cette chose.
  Adam et Eve : Okay
  Dieu : Que s'est-il passé ?
  Adam et Eve : On a fait la chose!
  Dieu : Putain, les gars...
  
  LE RESTE DE l'AT
  
  Dieu : Vous êtes mon peuple, et vous ne devez pas faire les choses.
  Peuple : Okay
  Dieu : Que s'est-il passé ?
  Peuple : On a fait les choses.
  Dieu : Putain, les gars...
  
  LES EVANGILES
  Jésus : Je suis le fils de Dieu, et même si vous avez fait les choses, Moi et le Père vous aimons toujours et nous voulons que vous viviez. Ne refaîtes plus les choses.
  Peuple sauvé : Okay! Merci!
  Les pharisiens : Bof! Nous l'avons jamais vu faire les choses, mais je suis sûr qu'il les fait en cachette.
  Jesus : Non, je n'ai jamais fait les choses
  Les pharisiens : On va néanmoins t'envoyer au tribunal pour avoir fait les choses
  Pilate : As-tu fait les choses ?
  Jésus : Non
  Pilate : Il a pas fait les choses
  Les pharisiens : Tues-le quand-même
  Pilate : Okay
  Jesus : Putain, les gars...
  
  EPITRES DE PAUL - TOME I
  
  Peuple : On a fait les choses
  Paul : Jesus vous aime quand-même et pour son amour vous devez arrêter de faire les choses
  Peuple : Okay!
  
  EPITRES DE PAUL - TOME II
  
  Peuple : On a fait les choses quand même
  Paul : Putain, les gars...
  
  REVELATION
  
  Jean : Quand Jésus reviendra, il tuera tout ceux qui font les choses. Pendant ce temps, arrêtez de faire les choses.
  
  FIN
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  The fight about the corpse of Moses

  by coalize in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.

  the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.

  (read jude 9.

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  The opinion of the WTBTS is that Jude isn't quoting from the Book of Enoch. They suggest that the writer of the Book of Enoch may have been quoting from the book of Jude

  But that doesn't explain one second why the christians was already aware about the fight when Jude talked about that

  or that both writers could have been quoting from a third source.

  But that doesn't explain why the third source is lost! And it doesn't answer at all at the two questions I asked.

  But we're used now with the WTBTS-explanations! :)
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  The fight about the corpse of Moses

  by coalize in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.

  the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.

  (read jude 9.

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  Oh! Thank you for the very interresting links!

  It has also been supposed that Jude is quoting an apocryphal book that contained this account

  Very strange ! An inspired apostle quoting an apocryphal book ?

  Jude didn't know this book was apocryphal? Because he was inspired by God, it would mean that God himself didn't know that book was apocryphal?

  Two things are possible then : Or the missing book wasn't apocryphal, or the book of Jude is apocryphal!

  Then if this missing book wasn't apocriphal, why God let a part of his Godly Words been lost ?

  And if Jude is apocryphal, why God let a part of his Godly Words been false ?
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  The fight about the corpse of Moses

  by coalize in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.

  the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.

  (read jude 9.

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  Hello,

  The new Watchtower, 15th February 2015, p6 §6, say :

  The Bible writer Jude recorded an example from Jesus’ prehuman existence. (Read Jude 9.) As Michael the archangel, Jesus “had a difference with the Devil” and “was disputing” with that wicked one. The issue involved “Moses’ body.” Recall that after Moses died, Jehovah buried the body in an unknown location. (Deut. 34:5, 6) Perhaps the Devil wanted to use Moses’ remains to promote false worship. Whatever evil purpose the Devil had in mind, Michael took a courageous stand.

  I don't want to come back here to the debate of Jesus = Michael, who was already treated very great here : http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/179503/1/I-need-some-good-sriptures-reasoning-to-refute-Jesus-3d-Michael-Archangel

  No, my issue is about the fact that Jude talk about that event, like if everybody at who he was speaking, was aware about this fight. Like if this fight between Michael and Satan was known by all the first christians, and was part of their belief.

  Or, perhaps something escaped me, but I don't know nothing about this fight. And, as I can see GB don't know much more.

  Then, what's this story of fight? Why the first christians was aware about that event, and not us?

  And, It's not the only thing surprising in Jude, I just read again right now because of this issue. I notice in Jude 14,15, that Jude is speaking about a prophecy of Enoch, that I don't know nothing about neither. But that will be another subject!
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  Public Talk Outlines

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been collecting the public talk outlines.

  i have almost all of them but there are a few missing.

  i have tiles for some but just numbers for others.

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  trop marrant! :)
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  Are you an "out of the closet" atheist?

  by rebel8 in

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  2. friends

  i'm atheist and not ashamed of it.

  however, it is so politically incorrect, especially where i live.

  i have a legitimate concern that being out of the closet too much will hurt my career or neighborly relations--i know for a fact it probably would.. i'm really cautious about who i tell.. how about you?

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  I'm an atheist. And proud to be one...

  But I'm not "out of the closet", because I have the chance to live in France, and it's very easy to me to say i'm an atheist... here, it's more when you begin to have religious thoughts that you are ashamed and want nobody to know :D
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  Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

  by ToesUp in

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  2. friends

  a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

  visit.

  this occurred 3 months ago.

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  Ah yes, if the CO didn't make a public point about this disqualification, it's strange!

  I know here in France some elders to have being disqualified because they was drinking too much (at the point they wasn't clearly totally sober at the KH...)

  but I don't know if they was drinking too much because of JW or because they was french..