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  The spirituality of science

  by Coded Logic in

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  things are often more than the sum of their parts.

  the letters typed onto this page, for example, are more than just letters.

  they've become a series of ideas and concepts.

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  I don't find, even on amazon, translation of the work og Edgar Morin in english.

  But I find an interessant article on arxiv. It's a very fast résumé of the thinking, but It's already a very good introduction :

  Restricted complexity, General complexity 
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  Poster country flags and privacy

  by Simon in

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  the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

  before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

  first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

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  Me I see a particular interest in showing that location. It can, for exemple for my case, show, that I'm not an born english-speaker, and showing my location in France, can make the readers more indulgent with my english mistakes.

  And for the violation for intimacy, except for country with very few witnesses, I don't think it's a problem.

  But for country with very few witnesses, perhaps something special can be done?
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  The spirituality of science

  by Coded Logic in

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  things are often more than the sum of their parts.

  the letters typed onto this page, for example, are more than just letters.

  they've become a series of ideas and concepts.

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  Very interresting posting.

  You should read some books of the french philosopher Edgar Morin about "the complex thinking".

  If I try to resume the part relative at your post (it's a little difficult for me to explain that in a language I don't really masterize, as you all noticed for my english) it will be : 

  1) As you notice very well :  "The whole is more than the sum of his parts" for the reason you said. Morin define that exactly : "it exists emerging features, i.e. features appearing from the organisation of the whole, and who are able to retroact on his parts"

  2) But he add : "The whole is too less than the sum of his parts" for the reason that "the parts can have features who are inhibited by the organization of the whole"

  I let it in french here, if never I made a big mistake of translation and if a best english-speaking french-speaker is around : 
  

  1.« le tout est plus que la somme des parties » : « il existe des qualités émergentes, c'est-à-dire qui naissent de l'organisation d'un tout, et qui peuvent rétroagir sur les parties »

  2. « le tout est également moins que la somme des parties » :  « les parties peuvent avoir des qualités qui sont inhibées par l'organisation de l'ensemble »

  The cover of the first part of the book "La méthode" where you can read the explanation of this concepts, really more great that what I can explain:

  
  

  

  
  

  I don't know if it exists in english! I will check!
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  ever read this?

  by sowhatnow in

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  i got an offer in the mail for mother earth magazine.. anyone like it?

  im not sure if im a liberal or not, i think its a liberal based format.

  its not all political, sort of like a shortened readers digest?

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  "If suddenly everybody in the world were miraculously given the same access to education, the same income, the same relative strengths and weaknesses as everybody else--BUT--kept the same personality they have now, in 10 years time DO YOU THINK society would be more or less equal than it is now?"

  I don't agree with your poker player. Sure It will still be loosers and winners... But more winners and less loosers than now...

  And it's important to take in consideration how the nowadays "winners" win... A lot cheats...and are proud of it!

  Then yes it will be winners and loosers... But i bet, If cheating is not allowed, it won't be the same as today..The world is not a poker game...

  I think that if everybody had the same background at the beginning,  after it's about personal responsability, no more about the chance to live in a place where you can have access to everything... Because most of the winners today depends on the LUCK to be born in the great places!

  I prefer the person who are loosers become loosers because they don't make the effort than they born loosers because they born in a place where it's nothing...

  I don't mind the world to be more equal, I want the world, at least to be more fair!

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Still pointing your Finger when having a Rafter in your eye?

  by DocHouse in

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  yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.

  many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.

  but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.

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  @magnum : And what is that supposed to be mean? Why it would it be ludicrous only to new JWs? To me, it should be ludicrous to anybody who hears it, but especially to those who are experienced JWs and have seen the evolution of the doctrine.

  On my mind, the ancient one are so much used as the "new light" comming regularly, that a new light or not, doesn't bother them so much in their obedience and confidence at the Borg. And an ancient one who find this new light "ludicrous" as you notice will react or by leaving the Borg or by shutting his mouth one more time.

  Or DocHouse is different he find the new light ludicrous, open his mouth on it an want us to keep confidence in the Borg. 

  All that made me think he's a new JW. But I'm perhaps totally wrong!
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  Still pointing your Finger when having a Rafter in your eye?

  by DocHouse in

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  yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.

  many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.

  but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.

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  The "Generation" doctrine ( 'over-lapping' generations, heh) IS Ludicrous! I agree!

  You must to be a very new JW then...
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  Proud JW.ORG Photos everyone needs to see! The Watchtower Sanctified the Internet for Preaching!

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

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  i am proud to be a jehovah's witness in the last days, what religion has done this much to proclaim the message about the organization?

  other religions are preaching about jesus, some wear the crucifixion, other's wear shirts with fishes but we wear shirts with jw.org!

  no other religion has our courage!.

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  The bus is in Guadeloupe nothing is paid for it

  
  

  Are you really sure about that ? Knowing that putting advertisment on bus can give more than 20% of increase of the year takings ? Or the advertisment is paid, or the owner of the bus is JW.
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  Still pointing your Finger when having a Rafter in your eye?

  by DocHouse in

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  yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.

  many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.

  but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.

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  Don't be sorry, it was my big luck to NEVER have this blinding Faith... I'm safe now...
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  Still pointing your Finger when having a Rafter in your eye?

  by DocHouse in

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  yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.

  many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.

  but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.

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  I don't care one second about your brainwashing silly rambling God...

  
  

  I don't pass 10 years of my life to finally leave definitively and totally JW's to enter in another stupid slavering religion of shit!
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  Proud JW.ORG Photos everyone needs to see! The Watchtower Sanctified the Internet for Preaching!

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

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  i am proud to be a jehovah's witness in the last days, what religion has done this much to proclaim the message about the organization?

  other religions are preaching about jesus, some wear the crucifixion, other's wear shirts with fishes but we wear shirts with jw.org!

  no other religion has our courage!.

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  @vidiot : In fact, i found some details on the french net. This bus is not in metropolitan france, but it's in guadeloupe, french overseas departement.

  Like you, I find that kind of ad strange in France. But in guadeloupe, even under the french laws, they have some local arrangments... this should be one... knowing that JW are more than 2% of the people there!