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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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How can you prove that humans are capable of asking and answering questions about the world in itself that make more sense than the dog who asks how the cupboard produces food?
but the question of the cupboard making food makes sense...
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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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Science assumes human rationality is the measure of everything
NO
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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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In other words what if the question itself betrays a misunderstanding of reality so fundamental that we cannot even begin to understand how the question distorts the world in itself that it seeks to explain?
The first question, distort or not, doesn't have importance. The important is how you handle the question :
* Like religious people, you stay on this first question, rejecting all facts discordant
* Like scientific people, you can change the question according to the new facts...
What is important is not really from where you start, but where you go!
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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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Take a dog as a counter example. It sees food emerge from the cupboard every day. It may wonder to itself, "how does the cupboard make food?"
From our perspective that question betrays a basic misunderstanding of the reality of the situation, and no matter how hard the dog tries to answer the question he's not going to arrive at what a realist would call an "objective" answer to the question as framed. It's the wrong question to start with.I don't agree. This question is pertinent. It's not the wrong question to start with, but the wrong question to finish with!
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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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the basic assumption that humans are mentally equipped to ask and answer questions about the nature of reality in a way that accurately reflects the world in itself
No. At contrary, the scientific method is a tool useful, specially because we can't trust our mental or our reason. They are not sufficient. That's why you need proofs...
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1. A religion can't never be "of peace". That's a lie! By definition a religion (except if it's unique, what's not the case), link peoples. Then, like all link, it separates. By essence, a religion is something whe separate, divide people. Then, by essence it can't be "of peace".
2. There is no official authority in Islam. Ajem Choudrey say something, but he have no official authority. It's bullshit... Nobody in france know him, by example...
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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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"Perspectivism asks whether it's time to stop calling particular perspectives absolute truth and show some humility"
The perspectivism doesn't oppose scientific method, nor scientific tradition! He even don't oppose rationnalism!
If you remember, Leibniz himself promoted a perspectivist and fully rational philosophy, based on the principles of sufficient reason and fullness, and asserted the need to envisage worlds and multiple viewpoints using a higher and inclusive logic.
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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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Therefore scientists are the new high priests
The difference between scientists and a theologian in the reality field, is the same than between an investigator and a medium in a crime scene...
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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism
by slimboyfat inin the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.
i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).
but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.
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coalize
What will make science obsolete?
Someone who will come with a methode more rigourous than the actual scientific method...
But ... oh...wait... It will still be a scientific method...